Conversation 665-010

TapeTape 665StartThursday, February 3, 1972 at 4:10 PMEndThursday, February 3, 1972 at 4:23 PMTape start time05:58:23Tape end time06:02:22ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Bull, Stephen B.Recording deviceOval Office

On February 3, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:10 pm and 4:23 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 665-010 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 665-10

Date: February 3, 1972
Time: Unknown between 4:10 pm and 4:23 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

     Charles W. Colson’s schedule

Bull left at an unknown time before 4:23 pm.

                                                                      Conversation No. 665-11

Date: February 3, 1972
Time: 4:23 pm - 4:42 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler, Charles W. Colson and Rose Mary Woods.

     President’s previous meeting with Yevgeny Yevtushenko
           -Ziegler’s forthcoming comments to press
                -The President’s reading
                -President’s forthcoming visits to Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
                       and People’s Republic of China [PRC]
                -Yevtushenko’s visit to US
                -Poetry
                       -Discussion of arts
                            -Transcending politics

     Note to William P. Rogers
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     Rose Mary Woods’ health
          -Back pain
               -Muscle relaxer

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     President’s upcoming meeting with Adm. Thomas H. Moorer
           -Timing

Woods and Ziegler left at 4:26 pm.

     National economy
          -Unemployment
                -Administration’s statistics
                -Unknown person
                -Married men
                     -Percentage
                           -Compared to early 1960’s
                -Colson’s conversation with James D. Hodgson
                -Prospects
                     -Comparisons to last year

     Rogers
         -Comments concerning Edmund S. Muskie’s speech on Vietnam

     Muskie
         -Speech on Vietnam
              -Possible administration response
                   -President’s 1968 Republican Platform Committee statement
              -Negotiations
                   -Peace
                         -Muskie’s involvement
              -Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson’s possible response
              -Jackson’s forthcoming Meet the Press, February 6, 1972
                   -Briefing by White House staff member

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     1972 campaign
          -New Hampshire poll
                   -Democrats identifying as conservatives
                   -Campaign efforts in New Hampshire
                   -Estes Carey Kefauver

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     Muskie
         -Speech on Vietnam
              -Possible administration response
              -President’s memorandum, February 2, 1972
                    -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                         -John A. Scali
              -Rogers
                    -Compared to John Foster Dulles

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     Edmund S. Muskie
         -Speech on Vietnam
              -Barry M. Goldwater
                   -Comments concerning Dean Rusk and Robert S. McNamara in 1964
                   -Campaign

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     Edmund S. Muskie
         -Speech on Vietnam
              -Barry M. Goldwater
              -Rogers

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 4:26 pm.

     President’s schedule
           -Moorer
                -Henry A. Kissinger
          -Gen. Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
               -President’s instructions

     Kissinger’s schedule
          -Possible delay
                -Robert S. Ingersoll
     President’s schedule
           -Moorer
           -Alexander P. Butterfield
           -Ingersoll
           -Haig

Bull left at an unknown time before 4:42 pm.

     National economy
          -Unemployment
                -Herbert Stein
          -Status
                -Income
                -Inflation
                -Unemployment

     Rogers
         -Conversation with Colson
               -Relations with press
         -Conversation with Colson
         -Forthcoming Face the Nation, February 6, 1972
               -Jackson
         -Goldwater speech
         -Patrick J. Buchanan
               -Possible Administration resposne

     Muskie
         -Speech on Vietnam
               -Arizona and Iowa
               -Press comment on Muskie speech
               -Unknown reporter’s conversation with Colson, January 31, 1972
         -Press conference
         -Possible attacks by Democrats
         -Forthcoming attacks by Jackson
               -The environment, busing, and the space shuttle
         -Goldwater
         -Speech on Vietnam
               -Possible administration response

     Vietnam
          -Negotiations
               -Peace offer
                     -Reaction by Viet Cong
               -Wall Street Journal editorial
                    -Distribution
          -Administration propaganda
              -Upcoming special issues of Monday
                    -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon’s trip to Africa
                    -The President’s peace initiatives
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     1972 campaign
          -Albert E. Sindlinger’s poll
               -Questions
               -Ronald W. Reagan
               -Spiro T. Agnew
               -Techniques
               -Compared to other polls

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     National economy
          -Stock Market
                -Volume
                     -American Stock Exchange
                     -Brokers’ profits
                          -Comparisons to 1968

     Michael J. Mansfield

Bull entered at an unknown time after 4:26 pm.

     The President’s schedule
          -Kissinger

Bull left at an unknown time before 4:42 pm.

    The press
         -Edith Efron
         -Colson’s conversation with Leonard H. Goldenson, February 3, 1972
         -Network coverage of Samuel J. Ervin, Jr. Committee
               -Walter J. Cronkite, Jr.’s testimony
              -Accuracy in Media’s challenge to Federal Communications Commission
[FCC]
                    -David Brinkley’s previous commentary about military state
     President’s schedule
           -Florida
                 -Preparation for forthcoming trip to PRC
                      -Readings

Colson left at 4:42 pm.

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