Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 666-006
Date: Monday, February 7, 1972 at 12:42 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary; Sanchez, Manolo; Bull, Stephen B.; Ziegler, Ronald L.
Recording device: Oval Office
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/666-006

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[3:15:35] Commander, I ought to told you about the package.
[3:16:39] Bring in their own little birds and the other birdie among you.
[3:16:45] Which I understand.
[3:16:46] Well, fine it is.
[3:16:49] I hope I get a cat in the family.
[3:16:53] Oh, really?
[3:16:54] Bill Rocker is good, but he is so consumed with his hatred of Kissinger that he can't do anything.
[3:17:00] Kissinger is so consumed with his hatred of Rocker that they can't do anything.
[3:17:03] And both are at fault.
[3:17:05] Both are at fault.
[3:17:06] I understand it.
[3:17:08] I understand it.
[3:17:09] I don't forgive Henry one goddamn bit for his business, because he's an egomaniac and vicious and so forth.
[3:17:16] But Bill, on the other hand, ought to be big enough to understand it.
[3:17:21] And Bill is at times, but in terms of our, I no longer can have Bill come around, because he's bound to, he hasn't yet.
[3:17:36] He's fine, but there's Martha.
[3:17:39] Yes.
[3:18:00] So I, and I can't think of the amount I heard she should, but I, but she bugs me too, I mean.
[3:18:06] She should have some pretty down time.
[3:18:07] What do you think?
[3:18:08] Also.
[3:18:10] They're rubbing against you and everything.
[3:18:13] It just embarrasses me.
[3:18:15] Martha Mitchell's not the kind of person.
[3:18:18] I think a lot of people enjoy her.
[3:18:20] She's not the kind of person.
[3:18:21] She's the kind of person who irritates me.
[3:18:26] So who the hell else do I have in the cabin?
[3:18:29] There's another one that I can talk to.
[3:18:31] Vince, you know, is off on his own things now.
[3:18:33] And also Vince is so worried about
[3:18:37] His own problems.
[3:18:38] We're trying to help him.
[3:18:41] We're trying to help him in every way we can.
[3:18:44] You know, I don't know for Congress.
[3:18:48] I don't know what it is.
[3:18:48] If you're pressing him to do it or not.
[3:18:53] I don't think so.
[3:18:54] It is.
[3:18:54] Well, I think that's the reason I'm supposed to live.
[3:18:59] And that would have helped.
[3:19:01] Yes.
[3:19:05] But you don't need a guy like Glenn Hull used to be, who can always walk in and hide everything and stuff.
[3:19:12] Well, he made it sort of terrible.
[3:19:14] You see, I cannot get it, obviously, for any of the other sad people.
[3:19:21] No, because... Because they are not my love, and they should never try to be my love.
[3:19:27] No, no.
[3:19:28] You know, I don't have, I don't, as you know, it's a very interesting thing.
[3:20:07] The only other one that might be a sort of help and introspect would be Connelly.
[3:20:17] But Connelly, of course, he's so deeply involved in so many terrible problems that the hell I can't...
[3:20:31] And he isn't the best guy to relax with.
[3:20:34] He's a lot more fun than he is.
[3:20:36] He's quite an intense person.
[3:20:38] No, I don't mean that in anything.
[3:20:40] I don't keep terrific, but...
[3:20:42] But you see, he's not... Well, for example, it's a small thing.
[3:20:48] He doesn't drink.
[3:20:49] That's right.
[3:20:50] So when you go to relax...
[3:20:51] He doesn't never drink.
[3:20:52] I'm likely to drink if the other person doesn't drink.
[3:20:59] They ask you, why don't you see the ghosts?
[3:21:01] I say, you know why you see the ghosts.
[3:21:05] Because there are two men who absolutely never raise a study.
[3:21:10] They never raise a study to their own problems.
[3:21:16] And they try to make things delightful and easy for you and let you alone when you want to be alone.
[3:21:23] But here we are.
[3:21:24] So I had a position that is quite unique in this office, you know, the poor man had a crazy wife, but on the other hand, he had a couple of friends.
[3:21:34] And I'm sitting here really down with it.
[3:21:39] No really kind of friends that I could count on, with the possible exception, really, of, I don't know, maybe it was a campaign committee, or maybe it was Mitchell,
[3:21:52] Mitchell I enjoy, because he's cold.
[3:21:55] And he's got a good sense of humor with it, too.
[3:21:58] He isn't going to be raised every single day.
[3:22:01] You can have Mitchell without Martha.
[3:22:03] Now, I can get a lot of fun with Martha, because frankly, if she calls me, I have to straighten her out.
[3:22:11] But, um...
[3:22:15] Kanskje.
[3:22:16] Kanskje.
[3:22:16] Kanskje.
[3:22:17] Kanskje.
[3:22:18] Kanskje.
[3:22:18] Kanskje.
[3:22:42] It doesn't make any difference because they have to.
[3:22:45] It's not too bad.
[3:22:46] There are a few guys like Paul Keyes around just once a month or once every three months.
[3:22:51] He doesn't believe in raising anything.
[3:22:57] He's very good.
[3:22:59] But if we had several people like that, you know...
[3:25:28] May I say something?
[3:25:29] I know.
[3:25:30] Well, I wish there were a few people in town, or around somewhere, like for instance, that Duke Rose, to, well, you don't play golf anymore, but if you were near someplace to play golf, because I don't think he ever brought that stuff either.
[3:25:51] But there just aren't any.
[3:25:53] I'm not really getting back to
[3:31:17] I think you had, you did make, you did make one very, very safe point there.
[3:31:26] I take one more cocktail, and then we go over to the other side.
[3:31:29] But this, I don't see if Ziegler has seen three yet.