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It won't be long, actually.

Ten days.

It can be a long ten days.

Can we get back to 28?

No, 28 February.

Well, the world will be changed somewhat.

It won't be the same.

I don't know what's going to be changed.

I guess that's, uh...

That will be, and that one is the one in terms of the next 10 years is by far the more important to me.

The one that will make sense in the next 25 years.

But the Russian thing, for the next 10 years, is going to check its center.

But the Russian thing is going to check its center.

and vice versa, and they're rubbing, you see they rub on each other.

The problem, of course, is to keep them all happy.

That's what we do.

Come back.

Let's see you.

Well, we're very, very, very strong.

We're going to start talking to you.

They're very old men.

John Lyons, sir.

There's a...

Well, let's get into the more important problems of lottery funding and so on and so on.

Where do we get Jonathan?

Jonathan must be in charge of what I'm doing.

Jonathan will be the follow-up.

He'll be watching things from the White House, San Diego, here.

And Jonathan will be in charge, of course.

So many comes up, particularly now in 28.

And they're going to keep calling.

But the... Well, as far as I know, the monetary side, they don't think there's any cost to it.

1-X-5, you're all in Miami, isn't he?

And we are on the...

When did that happen?

1-X-5?

Two years ago.

When was Moon... Oh, yeah.

Yeah, in January.

It was in January.

And, uh... What about the problem that you mentioned at the last time?

About your friends in New York or your visitors and enemies surrounding you?

What is the problem?

What do you have?

What does he have?

And he's probably got them fired.

Yeah, I don't know.

There's no way that he can help me.

There's no way.

There's no way our friends can help you.

No, I'll let you know when you can sign, actually.

Oh, I see.

Okay, well, I just hope you know what to do.

You know, we have many good friends in the New York community.

Very powerful, but maybe they can't hold it.

No, what I'm doing is... All of them if you need, you know, I mean, everybody from the David Rockefeller's, you know, that group.

I'm working from the inside.

The man on whom he relies very heavily, I am making him my confidant.

So sometimes I'd have him over once a week.

He'd come in my class.

He'd start coming in my class.

And I let the word slip that he may have a future at the back.

That was it?

Yeah, without me needing anything like it.

No, no, no, that's me.

That's me carrying the corner for me.

And the only little thing I'm doing without Hayes is he wastes a lot of money.

He goes on jackets.

And I've shut my eyes for that.

But he's going to be disciplined by one of my colleagues.

And then he'll come to me for relief, and I took a rant over it.

These are not pleasant maneuvers for me, but I can't leave her out of it anyway.

The reason we're not touching, you see, you can't discharge it.

Wasn't he another pretty force in the system?

Yeah.

Well, that was wonderful.

No, I'm just so here.

You say it's coming along.

We have that six-month period with Donald Drysdale.

It's not true.

It may have hurt us irreparably, but I... No.

You don't say so long.

How could it have hurt us?

It wasn't bad.

Well, if you remember what I meant, it's, you know, the problem with...

and you've always spoken under that timeline.

I really don't care what you do in April.

In other words, between now and April, it's going to make a hell of a difference.

It doesn't matter.

You see, we need to look at what has happened with interest rates since August this last year on the one major.

I'm glad to see that.

Tim?

Yep.

This is a revolution in interest rates.

What does that mean?

The banks are just loaded down on funds.

And they're hunting for customers and people in the region.

Sure.

Where's that?

Yeah, where's the M1?

The M1 is here.

The M2 is here.

This is enormous.

Well, then $270,000 for us if you take money out of Europe.

I'm in charge of that.

That's right.

Check it.

Is this money?

Yeah.

This is the one.

I'll send it to you.

No, this is the one.

This is the one.

does not draw from shifts from one to the other.

His latest paper indicates that it is viewed as being more important than any other.

Or to lose.

It doesn't make any difference to me how they fire the right bullet.

That's not right.

No, but this is doing well.

You see that?

What you're talking about, Tom, I saw your testimony.

You seem to be, uh, rather, uh, we're in a motion to comment.

I'm going to stay around for a few minutes.

That's a good question, actually.

Are you trying to sort of, uh, get my thoughts over it?

I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not sure.

Now, what is your feeling about the rules of the union?

On the economy, what do you think are the strong factors?

I know speech and silence may be some sluggish, but many do not worry about ourselves.

That's correct.

Let's hurry on.

I'll be with you in a second.

Well, a kind child really is going to live long when they don't know what's happening.

It should be moving faster.

That's right.

And somehow it's all recorded.

Well, you know, I just put it out in the air and it's four hundred blocks.

He wants to reform the masses.

He wants peace.

I couldn't agree more.

Don't walk over.

I don't know why, sir.

Well, we've got enough to play.

Well, you know, people are getting awfully confused on the... the, I hope, most frozen in that connection.

As far as the other ones, as I said,

They're not going to substitute one aggressive, regressive tax for another, just like that.

And that there would be no peace, of course, in Mexico.

There's no way the countries can't possibly get it from Mexico.

It doesn't do anything different without a good tax card, doesn't it, Monica?

That was a year ago.

Yeah, but for a number of purposes.

I wanted the bank to add a tax on the substitute, a partial substitute, for the rate of the tax.

Right.

That was so long.

Not the warranty, not the property tax.

The property tax is not such a bad tax.

But if you turn to the, let's suppose we use the end of production, do you favor that?

That makes sense.

Add two or three hundred to the property tax.

You're not getting corporate tax.

You're not getting individual tax.

You're getting all the shoe market.

What not?

What the crop tax is the tax.

The shoe is the price.

Everybody wants it.

And you, as far as they're concerned, you're still for the value of the tax?

Yeah.

It's a different, you know, for a different purpose.

But you don't think he can do it this year?

No, no.

No, I don't think so.

I know, but that's quite hard to be honest with you.

He's just...

Hey, you made your tax bill.

Yeah.

Won't you sell that girl?

But not unless we had it.

Yeah, well, that's right.

And now, and now, we can talk about raising taxes again, even though it's a... You never bought me that house.

Right.

Huh?

I don't know if we want any more of it.

I think we want a little piece.

We're just in the incubator for about six months now.

Nothing, nothing more to say.

Well, there are a lot of tough calls for a lot of people on that committee.

Yes, that's about a month off.

No, that's the reason for the other commission.

See, they're going to stay out of it.

They're going to say we've got a crisis, the courts are throwing out the present system, we've got to move to some other system, we probably have to go to the state level.

Yeah.

Well, some can, some can't.

They're hung up on the parochial school problem right now.

They're probably splitting on that.

Well, they're divided.

Well, several.

Several.

And, in fact, the private school committee of the McElroy Commission will come in to support the private schools.

But the whole commission is...

There are a lot of people who are public school oriented that would like to see all private schools around the country.

That's very good.

And they're wrong.

They're just dead wrong.

I don't care.

There's a lot of private schools in the whole city.

Very good.

Where I am, our education system is in competition with the next.

It doesn't hurt to have a little religion.

No, he certainly does not.

I think it's God that sent him to public schools today, huh?

I mean, there's a lot of public school people, but there's some terrible ones, too.

Well, the president lives outside of Long Island, but I...

I can't find anybody who's in favor of busing, or who can let me hear my voice.

I need you back here.

Well, it's a terrible problem, aren't there, because the Constitutional problem is almost in sight.

And how do you handle it?

I don't have that much information.

We're going to find a way.

Coming in, Howard Baker, Bill Brock, Harry F. Bird, he's on the panel.

Harry, where are you on the map?

Robert, where are you on the map?

Yes, I'm on the map.

Downing, there's a Democratic in your hand.

Lantin, probably from New York City, Democratic, Oklahoma.

I'm Tower.

Sorry, are you on the map, Richardson?

Yes, sir.

Richardson is aboard.

Do you have a box?

No, no, Richardson is aboard.

He's coming, he's coming, he's coming.

No, no.

No, sir.

He's not a professional.

He is not a professional.

And we've asked him and the Attorney General to be the devil's advocate in this, to explain some of the problems to these congressmen in terms of southern schools and so on.

No, it's scheduled.

Every time you hear from the Congressman, the hour cooking creek went on up like this.

Right.

I think the thing is that, well, can we talk about this?

I don't feel much so.

What I meant is I don't believe that we should have it.

We all have a problem.

I don't hear about that.

No, no.

We all have a lot of questions.

What do we do about it?

Right.

I think what you might want to do, I think Howard Baker is the most articulate and probably has the best grasp of the subject matter.

You can turn to him first.

Well, I wouldn't if I were you.

They're all substantial authority on Howard.

Griffin has a slightly different approach.

Howard was first, and his is the one that's leading the way.

And then I'll take it from there, and we can talk about some of the problems and what we have to do about it.

Well, I don't know.

I'm a respectable authority.

I'm glad to hear the results of these canvases.

John Lindsay has now become the leader of the pro-bussing forces.

Not terribly visible at the moment.

He's lying low.

Muskie's all over.

It depends on the audience and where they are and they need a lot.

They talk about it being an unfortunate tool and may in certain circumstances be necessary.

Well, my argument against busing goes further than that.

Brown's support of education was about quality education.

It concluded that segregated, legally segregated education, legally segregated education was not quality education.

And that I agree.

On the other hand, education with nasty busing is not quality education.

So that's my, that's where you come down.

And most blacks will agree with that.

Oh, God.

Can you remember the school of black kids as well as white kids riding that goddamn bus?

They're the victims.

For an hour and a half.

They get up at 6 o'clock in the morning to get to their damn school.

Where they could walk to school at 20 minutes.

It's wrong.

It breaks up the neighborhood.

They've never seen the other kids in their neighborhood.

Yeah.

Well, it's not good for them.

They ought to have the opportunity to go where they want to, America, where they want to, do anything else they want to.

You cannot force people of different races and different religions.

They have to live, they have to complete, they have to be in the same club.

How much do they want?

They must have an opportunity to.

There must never be a problem.

But you can't force it.

That's the only thing you can do is to force it.

All legal restrictions must be removed so that no person born in this country can say, because I was born this, that, or the other name, I cannot go here, that I am God.

But on the other hand, you don't say, you never come in and say, now, we know whether that your parents, but how you want to be raised here.

And we're going to pick you up and carry you over here.

And we're going to force your parents to move out of the suburb and all the other places.

No one.

Now, go on with it.

There's plenty of other problems, aren't there?

Go on.

We all agree on busing.

If it weren't for my, um,

Listen, I tried that on rockets last night, and failed.

You won't be just...

I don't know what the hell you did.

Is there any other job to take?

I asked John if he could find something in our church halls, like the St. Lawrence Seaway or something.

That'd be good.

I don't think he'd suffer a bit like that.

Well, it's a high question.

I want you to hand him off to him.

He hasn't been transferred yet to New York.

He can't sleep.

What do you take of that?

He could go there.

He's sort of sleeping.

And there are a couple of others in Europe, I think, that are .

.

. .

How about taking another country to this lesson?

Now, ballot can get after all the investors in Europe.

They're a little over the list.

Is Latin America a possibility?

They're going to be like Europe.

Europe should be able to win.

And Europe is safer than Latin America at the most.

Latin America's got to have a little bit more responsibility.

I mean, we can take like Hollander.

Sweden is very touchy.

Hollander's had a very, err, this black ambassador we had there, had a very tough time in Sweden because of the antagonistic government.

How about Finland?

You know what I mean?

You see, he loved to cow-cow with the central bankers.

Oh.

And, uh, a major central bank in Sweden.

How about us, Jeremy?

Yeah.

Like it.

Well, I don't know.

See if they can find one of these.

I mean, it's better than Sweden, right?

Yeah.

I know I have them.

But not Jeremy.

Oh, no.

The, uh... We've been working on that.

We've been working on that.

Believe me, I...

I know you have.

We've been working on that.

President, the, uh...

I want to talk a little about the place.

I sent you a letter.

Yes, sir.

I got it.

I got it tonight.

Now, the, uh...

I was aware that we were doing a lot of things, but, you know, moving money around...

Well, you see, he don't have as much stimulation.

I was not aware until I dug in.

He don't have as much stimulation.

And why?

Well, let me...

I'll tell you a little secret.

Money will go out.

But what good is it if you pay a contractor a month in advance or two months in advance?

You save a little money on interest, so if you don't buy hardware, you don't put people to work.

Now, uh, I have a suggestion of mine, too.

Yeah?

The, uh...

I've watched this kind of operation.

Remember, we moved this to 73 to 72, you know.

Yeah, but what you've moved from 73 to 72 in large part is just the financial consequences rather than money and time.

I remember we talked about this before, but what can we do this year that we haven't done before?

We've got a minor to work on this last day.

What's your plan?

My plan is that you have wine bearers report to you once a week on your accomplishments.

You don't have to study anyone.

You've got to stop waiting on them.

What the hell are we talking about?

Accomplishments?

That's a great question.

A lot of hard work.

A lot of hard work with people.

These financial transfers, I made on the rack tanks over $6,000 a year.

Well, I don't know if you saw Poy's press conference or not.

The fellow from Coppers Corporation, chief executive retired from Coppers.

We've had him on the coast scouting out points at which we could inject federal money.

He accounts for 90,000 new jobs that we have created through budgetary simulations.

coming back.

We're doing that as present.

For instance, we've ordered six 747s this year that will actually go in production instead of next year, as an example.

We've been bird-dogging this as hard as we can, Arthur.

Now, if there's any, and as a matter of fact, Weinberger does report, he doesn't report to the president, but he reports to a committee that is

calling him to account regularly on this.

We also have, well, monthly now.

No, it should be, it should be.

Once a week, John.

John, I have watched this time and again.

Well, I'm sure you're right.

Don't let it happen over the next moment.

I'm sure it's good to have a better handle on it.

My record just looks like a woman.

But, John, it's got to be done.

There can't be any screwing around, you know.

Well, I didn't know, you know, I didn't care about it, but I made contracts and all that stuff.

No, we're well aware of this.

See, you let a shipping contract or you let an airplane contract immediately start the plan.

Right, right.

Making commitments to subs and this kind of stuff.

Weekly reports, you don't necessarily have to study them.

But they can't believe that you're studying up very, very, very high.

You can make a clear comment on these things.

It's justified or not.

I'm just going to give it a pressure to get that on the surface.

You can't receive that on the surface.

The defense people are here.

That's the tough one.

They love to let everything slide to the end of the year.

That's 60%.

That's where they're going to go.

They've got a good man over there, they say.

Moot?

Well, goddammit, I think Weinberger's got to put a three-man right.

And don't let him give them any song and dance on this.

We ride this car, and if I had them all in here, we'd have a great time.

There's a cabinet.

And, for instance, Jockel's a whole cabinet.

And Schultz.

Schultz took a cabinet.

Yeah, never report.

All right, I'd like a weekly report from every cabinet officer.

That's another thing.

A weekly report from every cabinet officer.

Four meetings, four, Weinberger, and the president.

Try to report everyone who's got any goddamn money, you know what I mean?

All right.

Are you understanding?

If you don't have one for the city, leave him off.

If you don't have one for me.

But, uh, if you don't want to, if you're huddled, I don't know.

You don't want to go out and raise the cost.

No, he's got a lot of other hardware out there.

So has Volpe.

Volpe's got a lot of them.

Well, we've got to have a lead.

Volpe, to his credit, is tracking.

Now, Roar in San Diego has just been given a major contract

for the second phase of the urban mass transit experiment.

And that is a $500 million hardware contract.

That's great.

And it's right down where we need it.

That is in Orange County.

You understand, every traffic officer, every week, and they're there to get it.

They're there to put some money on it every week.

And then my number to ride it is right there in the restaurant.

And just ride it like, you know, like this.

Well, it was one we were well aware of seven months ago.

We have done everything humanly possible with the Treasury Department.

We've been on it and on it and on it with a publicity campaign and all that after the tables came out.

Why did the tables come up the first time?

Well, because of pure and simple sabotage.

Somebody screwed us royally.

Everybody's paycheck is anywhere from $50 to $100 less now because of a change in the withholding rates.

And in the development of those tables, John Dean, I'm sure that it was done deliberately.

Connolly knows.

Johnny Walters knows.

We have taken that place to its foundations over the period of the last four months on this.

And when we first got a tip on it and got into it,

It was too late.

The tables were already out.

Well, we've done everything over the last three or four months that could be done in the way of radio and television ads, in the way of slips that have gone into everybody's pay envelopes to warn them about this, to try and soften the blow.

And they didn't owe that much?

No, they do owe that much money under the new regulations.

No, but you're going to hold withholding under the new regulations for millions of people.

Well, it's a compensation because there was a lot of under-withholding before.

I know you do in some categories.

In some categories.

We're a very important category.

Our constituency, unfortunately.

People who, uh, people who have a single job, which is the screwiest thing, the numerate work of operation of a single person has two jobs.

Don't work as a married couple, those guys.

I got you.

But if a single person holds only one job, or only one source of work, there tends to be over with totally.

Well, I don't know.

What can we do about it?

I only want to scratch my brain and turn down one suggestion after another.

There's only one possibility that I'd say no.

The advertising doesn't do any good, and I'll tell you why.

I tried this out on my director of research.

I told him, now look here.

You fill out that form for yourself, and I want you to tell me how long it takes you.

Signing extra exemptions, thereby getting down the amount of the withholding.

He came back with a report it took him two and a half hours.

If it takes him two and a half hours, he can't do it at all.

He can't.

He doesn't know how to go to it.

Now, I think that's a great way.

Only one way.

Here's what I'm doing to the Fed, for my people.

I've asked the Comptroller to fill out these forms for everyone on the Federal Reserve side who wants to do it.

to inform the Senate that he will do it.

Well, that's not a million.

That's worth a million.

Now, the only possibility that I see is getting a pool of heads of business firms and asking them to assume that burden for their employees to do it for their people.

Appealing to the individual, I don't think you know the answer to that.

Going to the Congress, I think that's hopeless.

But the opinion suggesting I can make it is not a good one.

Well, we've all around here been struggling with this thing for four months.

You see, it doesn't come to legislation.

The Revenue Master 71 has these crazy proposal tables.

Well, it's just too bad the legislature is not going to work.

Mr. President, you've got so much to do, and I shouldn't be asking you to assume more burdens, but I do want you to think about having a series of dinners to bring in business people from all over the country.

One a week, perhaps, if you could possibly manage it.

And the group, I think, though, to be no more than, say, around 25, they can sit around the next two weeks or so.

This is my view.

This might have some results in getting our business people to move instead of complaining and whining.

Yeah.

Good.

Give me that.

High five.

Now this could have, that's not my reason, but it could have a spill effect as far as contributions are concerned.

But I'm really thinking none of that campaign will take care of itself.

I'm thinking I'm just instilling a little more confidence in people.

And you know, just being here at the White House, and just talking to you, and just listening to you, is going to have a, I think, a very positive effect on, I think, on all parts of the country.

So they go back home and tell their business associates and friends.

Big business.

What size?

What size business?

We have a big business out here.

It doesn't matter.

It doesn't really matter if it's a big business.

You know, I think you'd have to get some businessman with a smaller account, with pounds of 100,000, 50,000, you know.

Now, you see, you could hold many of those.

10 such dinners, that would be 250.

None of this will have to be stacked up.

You see, holding dinners with visitors would probably, could have a negative effect.

Many might want to include, you see.

Some of the other people, it isn't all gold.

But I think that there is, now this is something also, that the economy might do,

Does the new Secretary of Commerce want to do?

Yeah.

If we can do some work on it, I'm not sure we'll, I don't know that we'll have enough.

I think the business council meeting is about to begin.

Hopefully, if somebody goes down there, and tomorrow the social events, they all get to talk to my team, and I can thank you.

I've been going out to DevCon over the years,

They're nice guys.

I mean, most of them are very good, but I mean, by the time you get there, it's a lark.

That's a different group than Arthur's suggestion.

That's more of an engrossed kind of thing.

Well, I know it's a big business.

It's about 40% of the business in the country.

But they just, when it comes down to it, you would try to...

We'll see if you can take a look at it and see if we can do it.

I think your idea is to spread it and have Connelly do one or two of them.

Have Connelly.

What about you, Johnson?

We do a spread of them every week at our workhouse with either Connelly in the stands or one of the captains.

than uh some of the cda and the white house and yes sir and labor business and labor both uh very successful very successful in terms of feedback well let's just say that we can uh i'll get off to this thing at the moment but uh

I think we're all working on the same goal.

We want these things to move.

We want the budget to expand.

We want the price and the wages to go.

We're working on that.

on the monetary front.

It's the old story.

Nobody really is sure of what makes it go.

Nobody's really sure.

Or I see the analysis of the comments.

First, they don't agree with each other.

Second, they don't agree with each other.

One year they'll do one thing, and the next year they'll do something else, and the next year they'll do three, and so forth.

And the reason is that in a great context, that great factor, which you often refer to, and I have too,

The decisions in this country are not made by a few people.

The jobs are made by hundreds of thousands of independent people.

They make decisions.

And if their decisions are positive, the economy moves.

If they're negative, it doesn't move.

So what we have to do is do everything we can at the governmental level, not only to create confidence, but to pour in the stuff in the economy that will make her move.

Now, on the plus side, I think, you know, you think you've started to very, very know.

I mean, I'm sure we know that we've all got to do this.

We've got to talk.

It would be good to talk, maybe, on the top side.

But I think we do, you can say, well, there's the economy schedule that's on some, but just in the rest, this is helpful.

And the rest of this, the fourth quarter, it was a good quarter.

It was a very good quarter.

But it didn't seem like it.

But all in all, it comes a year.

I don't know if we can kick up the first quarter, the second quarter, or something like that.

I think, you know, as far as you've got to be aware.

Yeah.

I think I'm going to ask you a couple of quick questions as far as you told me.

As far as the Goldberg, have you talked about the wage thing?

Correct.

I haven't yet, because I wanted to wait until I got back from the Chinese thing.

I'm just so tired.

He suggested, as far as the Goldberg, as I can recall, that you bring in the wage.

Or, you know, as far as I can judge.

Well, former...

Rumsfeld was thinking of a new, you know, place that Jacoby was going to.

Some questions have come up about Jacoby.

Well, Jacoby Doe didn't reside from that Oxman of Life thing, I understand.

It's Latin America, so... Or he may just have him on board.

Well, I would have, I was thinking of reaching me and Mark and both of us and trying to wait for it.

It was an obligatable thought.

Very good one.

We wanted to talk first.

We kind of began thinking about it.

I know.

It's right on time.

John Ronson?

I don't know.

I doubt you.

Quiet, please.

I have a final question.

We have a great difficulty locating a new member of the board.

We're looking for someone who's working hard.

Well, it's very good.

Well, I have a choice of about three.

I know.

I feel free to run and say that I exactly care.

But I don't have a list of three.

When do you have to have a list of three?

Oh, well, yes, the post-training now.

Oh.

But I cannot, I am unable to attract the kind of people I want.

And, well, this raises a question whether we may not have to move outside of the Pacific Coast.

You ought to get one in California, not the Pacific Coast.

That's the area we are working on.

Now, yes, I've signed a lot of people, but I'm not going to try to.

And about all of it really is this prestige, this kind of financial rewards that people in that kind of business would want.

But it's a hell of a prestigious thing.

It's an important thing.

It's an enormous power over the economy of this country.

You ask a good question.

I don't know how much progress I'm going to make on science.

I don't even know what this is all about.

There's ever a paper that's in my book.

He's got a job now.

And my only question is whether you might consider moving.

I don't.

He's doing really well.

He's doing really well here.

And it's very important.

There's somebody that conquers.

I'm afraid.

No, I'm not a businessman.

I'm a banker.

You got any weather?

Well...

There was an op in the woman chief's school.

Who?

You know, Johnny's daughter.

Oh, where?

Where'd you get an op, man?

Sure, she's about to get it.

Shut her up.

No, I didn't shut her up.

I just wanted to make sure that we'd all be working.

Well, look, you definitely need to get some names off of them, sir.

We're a job.

Jackson.

We propose a constitutional amendment.

Jackson.

Ready for a crisis in the Jewish schools in Texas.

Even not as well as they're living.

Jacksonville reporters, it is a matter also that requires each state to guarantee equal educational opportunity for all children.

What do you think?

I think he knows for a waffle.

Well, that isn't a waffle.

Well, it looks like a strip.

I'm going to agree that both orders are standard.

I do not believe, I don't believe that there is any federal money to be used for a community that's determined.

On the other hand, if the local community does not want low-cost public housing, I don't believe the government should go ahead and do this goddamn public housing project.

My only reason is that I grew up in a house, and it wasn't much of a house, and I remember we had a roof.

You know about buying a house?

Never buy the most expensive house in the block.

Now what I meant is, what you're really saying here is that somebody kind of touches it.

The guy that goes in there is thinking economics.

That's one thing.

Second, of course, he's thinking about his neighbors.

And Anna, you shouldn't put that in front of people talking about something like that.

I think this is happening sometimes, don't you think?

You do?

Yeah.

Worry about it.

Good.

Well, it could be you who do your thing of putting up a, uh, a shopping center with people moving around, culture moving outside.

Let me tell you this.

I know you want to get into America.

It's very cold.

You just drop that to somebody sometimes.

Now, you do see influential people, but you're considered to be a moderate man, you know what I mean?

And you're not here to be a president's man.

God damn it, say you're against busing.

Well, what do I do?

Well, say it's wrong, and also that you're against the Senate getting rid of your house again.

If you can, get George Washington to get a job, please.

Well, in terms of that, I'm here to do that.

Bye.

Good luck.

Good luck to you.

Well, these are the two imponderables.

Thank you.