Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 679 › Conversation 679-011

Nixon, Roche & Ehrlichman on General Motors and Antitrust

Tuesday, March 7, 1972 · 12:40 PM–12:43 PM ET · Oval Office · 3 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Roche, James M.; Gerstenbeerg, Richard C.; Ehrlichman, John D.; Shultz, George P.Conversation679-011 on Tape 679 (tape position 02:39:04–02:42:25)StartTuesday, March 7, 1972 at 12:40 PMEndTuesday, March 7, 1972 at 12:43 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 679-011 ↗

President Nixon met with General Motors executives James M. Roche and Richard C. Gerstenberg, alongside John D. Ehrlichman and George P. Shultz, to discuss administration relations and corporate matters. The conversation briefly touched upon Nixon’s recent trip to the People's Republic of China, as well as antitrust concerns regarding GM. The participants also addressed a recent New York Times article comparing the Nixon administration's handling of GM to previous policies under the Johnson administration, while briefly noting production and productivity trends.

  • General Motors
  • Antitrust
  • Nixon China Trip
  • Corporate Productivity
  • New York Times
  • Administration Relations

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Thank you.
That's a lot of work, of course.
As you guys are going out of the works, and now we have a lot of things.
We have a lot of work to do.
We still work towards Tom.
Tom picked up a couple of notes back here.
More than I got.
Congratulations on your wonderful trip.
I spoke to you about it.
You did a great job.
It was a very interesting experience.
I don't recommend that you leave.
I'm sure I will.
I think you want to get a, would you like to get a picture of the, come on there.
Oh, that would be very nice.
You get over there and get one of the two of us.
So you give to her and then we'll get one of you.
Oh, I'm a little grouchy.
All right.
Okay.
Now let's get one of the three of us.
All right.
Where are you going?
Oh, general voters, yes.
Not good.
If they take any trouble around here, Jim will tell you.
We don't have any trouble with that.
I think we'll discuss that again.
We're doing a great job.
We're doing a great job.
We're doing a great job.
We're doing a great job.
We're doing a great job.
We're doing a great job.
We're doing a great job.
The circumstances are almost identical.
General Motors.
Oh!
Not in the MLS case that we had.
Well, the MLS case is the same thing that they were talking about, that they're talking about in this one, which of course is ridiculous.
We had to do a little colorful work for you.
Well, anyway, we saw it, you know.
Okay, well, very awesome figure.
Producing.
Producing, so.
Those are nice.
Those are very good.
I saw that.
I saw that.
I saw that.
I saw that.
I saw that.
They're working 42 miles an hour now.
That's the speed of it.
Fortunately, it's not an honor.
That's what it is.
This is what we get out of it.
It looks like the hours for the second one, they've been important.
It's worth all the days that I'm underage, you know.
Well, you, we'll be on other occasions, but I want to, I want to bless the divorce and the marriage.
Okay, thank you.
All right.
All right.
Thank you.

On March 7, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, James M. Roche, Richard C. Gerstenbeerg, John D. Ehrlichman, and George P. Shultz met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:40 pm to 12:43 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 679-011 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 679-11

Date: March 7, 1972
Time: 12:40 pm - 12:43 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with James M. Roche, Richard C. Gerstenberg, John D. Ehrlichman, and
George P. Shultz.

     Greetings

     The President’s recent trip to the People’s Republic of China [PRC]

     Photographs

     Anti-trust
           -Lobbyists

     New York Times article
         -General Motors [GM]
               -Unknown writer [Shanahan?]
               -Current administration
               -Lyndon B. Johnson administration

     GM
           -Sales
           -Production
           -Productivity
                 -Amount of work performed in each hour of workday

The President, et al. left at 12:43 pm.
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  • 021-010 12:45 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:45 pm and 2:15 pm.
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  • 322-021 12:45 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:45 pm and 2:15 pm.
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Conversation 679-011, March 7, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/679-011 (accessed October 12, 2026).