{"conversationCode":"682-005","tapeNumber":682,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-682-005","startDateTime":"1972-03-10T17:38:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-03-10T17:45:00.000Z","startDate":"10-Mar-1972","startTime":"12:38 PM","endDate":"10-Mar-1972","endTime":"12:45 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; Brock, William; Hanson, Carol; Grubb, Evelyn; Ray, Janice; Hunt, Olive; Scowcroft, Brent G. (Gen.); Sievers, Frank A.; Shields, Roger W.; Nidecker, John E.; White House photographer;","description":"On March 10, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, William Brock, Carol Hanson, Evelyn Grubb, Janice Ray, Olive Hunt, Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft, Frank A. Sievers, Roger E. Shields, John E. Nidecker, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:38 pm and 12:45 pm. 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(“Ollie”) Atkins\n\n     Proclamation and Senate Joint [SJ] Resolution 189\n          -Signing\n          -Prisoners of war [POWs]\n                -Effort for return\n                -Wives\n                     -Effort\n\nBrock, et al. left and Bull entered at 12:40 pm.\n\n     Cabinet Room\n          -Forthcoming signing ceremony\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 12:45 pm.","filename":["682a.mp3","682b.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:49:05","tapeEnd":"00:55:08","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B.","Brock, William","Hanson, Carol","Grubb, Evelyn","Ray, Janice","Hunt, Olive","Scowcroft, Brent G. (Gen.)","Sievers, Frank A.","Shields, Roger W.","Nidecker, John E.","White House photographer"],"prevCode":"682-004","nextCode":"682-006","tapeTranscriptFile":"682a.mp3,682b.mp3","transcript":[{"start":2989.84,"end":2990.74,"text":"Mr. President, Senator Brown."},{"start":2990.76,"end":2993.1,"text":"Come on by."},{"start":2993.14,"end":2993.98,"text":"How are you?"},{"start":2994.14,"end":2994.72,"text":"Nice to see you."},{"start":2994.76,"end":2995.64,"text":"Nice to see you."},{"start":2996.06,"end":2996.36,"text":"How are you?"},{"start":2996.44,"end":2996.86,"text":"Good morning."},{"start":2997.14,"end":3006.49,"text":"Good morning."},{"start":3007.27,"end":3007.89,"text":"Good morning."},{"start":3008.35,"end":3008.67,"text":"Good morning."},{"start":3008.71,"end":3008.97,"text":"Good morning."},{"start":3009.41,"end":3009.82,"text":"Good morning."},{"start":3015.89,"end":3024.56,"text":"Well, see, you can kind of set this up in a little bit of a picture, you know, these, you know, beauty kind of things."},{"start":3024.58,"end":3025.32,"text":"That's what I'm saying."},{"start":3025.34,"end":3026.22,"text":"That's what I'm saying."},{"start":3026.26,"end":3026.7,"text":"That's right."},{"start":3026.74,"end":3027.98,"text":"I'll sit down."},{"start":3028,"end":3031.04,"text":"If you don't mind, you know, if I can put the present in each leg."},{"start":3031.56,"end":3032.1,"text":"In each side."},{"start":3032.38,"end":3036.66,"text":"Let's go to the other side."},{"start":3048.2,"end":3054.76,"text":"I'll use four, so each of the ladies can have one."},{"start":3054.84,"end":3057.63,"text":"Senator's already got some."},{"start":3057.87,"end":3060.49,"text":"You can all get one, too."},{"start":3062.23,"end":3067.62,"text":"Now, Mr. Atkins, this is all for the day."},{"start":3068.38,"end":3069.18,"text":"I'll start signing it."},{"start":3074.41,"end":3075.75,"text":"And here is the bill."},{"start":3075.77,"end":3077.58,"text":"I mean, oh, here's the current resolution."},{"start":3078.32,"end":3082.84,"text":"The current resolution states the sense of the Congress and the President's proclamation."},{"start":3105.2,"end":3106.18,"text":"Your husband?"},{"start":3106.36,"end":3109.09,"text":"I was thinking of that."},{"start":3112.81,"end":3120.62,"text":"Well, we haven't done enough."},{"start":3121.04,"end":3123.46,"text":"And we will never done enough to bring it back."},{"start":3123.68,"end":3124.54,"text":"I'm worried."},{"start":3131.61,"end":3136.05,"text":"We've never done a proclamation, you know, and all the rest."},{"start":3136.14,"end":3137.2,"text":"Prayers and so forth."},{"start":3137.72,"end":3138.74,"text":"They help because they really care."},{"start":3138.96,"end":3152.69,"text":"As far as I'm concerned, I don't consider anything after we've gotten back."},{"start":3154.73,"end":3155.41,"text":"That's our goal."},{"start":3155.45,"end":3157.35,"text":"We're working on it."},{"start":3157.45,"end":3157.77,"text":"Here's yours."},{"start":3157.79,"end":3160.11,"text":"The bill, I can't get it."},{"start":3160.13,"end":3160.53,"text":"I don't see it."},{"start":3160.55,"end":3160.99,"text":"I don't see it."},{"start":3162.64,"end":3164.32,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":3184.62,"end":3186.74,"text":"We've been saying that for a long time."},{"start":3186.84,"end":3188.36,"text":"It's coming along."},{"start":3188.41,"end":3188.78,"text":"Sure, sure."},{"start":3188.8,"end":3189.22,"text":"That's right."},{"start":3189.26,"end":3195.65,"text":"Appreciate your courage."},{"start":3196.81,"end":3204.44,"text":"Thank you, sir."},{"start":3204.48,"end":3212.46,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":3212.48,"end":3213.5,"text":"Take a moment to set up a camera."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":2932.625,"end":3298.75,"startMethod":"silence","endMethod":"silence"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Senator William Brock and a group of visitors, including relatives of prisoners of war, for a ceremonial photograph and gift presentation session. 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