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Bull & Butterfield on Press relations and Staff management

Monday, March 13, 1972 · 12:02 PM–12:05 PM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsBull, Stephen B.; Butterfield, Alexander P.; [Unknown person(s)]Conversation683-005 on Tape 683 (tape position 02:38:41–02:39:53)StartMonday, March 13, 1972 at 12:02 PMEndMonday, March 13, 1972 at 12:05 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 683-005 ↗

Stephen B. Bull and Alexander P. Butterfield met briefly in the Oval Office to coordinate administrative logistics regarding the President’s schedule and press relations. The participants reflected on the recurring nature of daily crises within the White House, noting the difficulty of managing competing perspectives among staff members. The discussion concluded without specific policy action, serving primarily as a brief exchange on the pressures of managing the President's operational environment.

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2:38:45I mean, it comes Saturday, and it comes on the 19th, 10th, and so on.
2:38:50Well, it works, doesn't it?
2:38:51Yep.
2:38:55They're all people who are trying to figure out how to do the best thing to do the best they can, and they have different views on it.
2:38:59I know, I know.
2:39:00And they tend to, no matter how many battles they beat, they've been through, every one of them seems to be a massive problem.
2:39:09That's right.
2:39:10Yeah, that's true.
2:39:12Each day, each day, we have a massive problem.
2:39:17That's the word.

On March 13, 1972, Stephen B. Bull, Alexander P. Butterfield, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:02 pm and 12:05 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 683-005 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 683-5

Date: March 13, 1972
Time: Unknown between 12:02 pm and 12:05pm
Location: Oval Office

Stephen B. Bull met with Alexander P. Butterfield.

     The President’s schedule
          -Press

Bull talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 12:01 pm and 12:05 pm

[Conversation No. 683-5A]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Press Room

Bull and Butterfield left at an unknown time before 12:05 pm.
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Conversation 683-005, March 13, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/683-005 (accessed October 3, 2026).