{"conversationCode":"683-005","tapeNumber":683,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-683-005","startDateTime":"1972-03-13T17:02:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-03-13T17:05:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Mar-1972","startTime":"12:02 PM","endDate":"13-Mar-1972","endTime":"12:05 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Bull, Stephen B.; Butterfield, Alexander P.; [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On March 13, 1972, Stephen B. Bull, Alexander P. Butterfield, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:02 pm and 12:05 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 683-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 683-5\n\nDate: March 13, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 12:02 pm and 12:05pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nStephen B. Bull met with Alexander P. Butterfield.\n\n     The President’s schedule\n          -Press\n\nBull talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 12:01 pm and 12:05 pm\n\n[Conversation No. 683-5A]\n\n[End of telephone conversation]\n\n     Press Room\n\nBull and Butterfield left at an unknown time before 12:05 pm.","filename":["683a.mp3","683b.mp3","683c.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:38:41","tapeEnd":"02:39:53","participantsList":["Bull, Stephen B.","Butterfield, Alexander P.","[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"683-004","nextCode":"683-006","tapeTranscriptFile":"683a.mp3,683b.mp3,683c.mp3","transcript":[{"start":9525,"end":9530.4,"text":"I mean, it comes Saturday, and it comes on the 19th, 10th, and so on."},{"start":9530.42,"end":9531.47,"text":"Well, it works, doesn't it?"},{"start":9531.49,"end":9531.55,"text":"Yep."},{"start":9535.25,"end":9539.93,"text":"They're all people who are trying to figure out how to do the best thing to do the best they can, and they have different views on it."},{"start":9539.95,"end":9540.21,"text":"I know, I know."},{"start":9540.29,"end":9549,"text":"And they tend to, no matter how many battles they beat, they've been through, every one of them seems to be a massive problem."},{"start":9549.76,"end":9550.32,"text":"That's right."},{"start":9550.52,"end":9551.36,"text":"Yeah, that's true."},{"start":9552.14,"end":9557.65,"text":"Each day, each day, we have a massive problem."},{"start":9557.89,"end":9560.07,"text":"That's the word."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":9525,"end":9586.75,"startMethod":"silence","endMethod":"silence"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"Stephen B. Bull and Alexander P. Butterfield met briefly in the Oval Office to coordinate administrative logistics regarding the President’s schedule and press relations. The participants reflected on the recurring nature of daily crises within the White House, noting the difficulty of managing competing perspectives among staff members. The discussion concluded without specific policy action, serving primarily as a brief exchange on the pressures of managing the President's operational environment.","topics":["Presidential schedule","White House operations","Press relations","Staff management","Administrative logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T02:33:30.371Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","white-house-operations","press-relations","staff-management","administrative-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":72,"audioFiles":[{"file":"683a.mp3","bytes":175834382,"durationSec":7326.36,"bitrate":192001,"missing":false},{"file":"683b.mp3","bytes":176235623,"durationSec":7343.08,"bitrate":192001,"missing":false},{"file":"683c.mp3","bytes":172379323,"durationSec":7182.4,"bitrate":192002,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":true,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:54.977Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:17.674Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/683a.mp3","https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/683b.mp3","https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/683c.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/683-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/683/conversation-683-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}