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Conversation 683-013

TapeTape 683StartMonday, March 13, 1972 at 3:05 PMEndMonday, March 13, 1972 at 3:12 PMTape start time04:52:18Tape end time05:00:02ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Bull, Stephen B.;  Murray, Grover E.;  Bradford, John R.;  Cook, Richard K.;  Nidecker, John E.;  White House photographerRecording deviceOval Office
AI Summary

President Nixon met with Representative George H. Mahon, Texas Tech University President Grover E. Murray, and other academic representatives to discuss a formal invitation for the President to address the upcoming American Society for Engineering Education conference in Annapolis. The participants also engaged in informal conversation regarding upcoming visits, the presentation of photographs and personal memorabilia for a presidential display at Odessa College, and general political pleasantries. Nixon agreed to consider the speaking invitation and facilitated a photo opportunity with the visiting delegation.

American Society for Engineering EducationPresidential schedulingOdessa CollegeMemorabiliaGeorge H. MahonTexas Tech University
AudioNARA Description

On March 13, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, Grover E. Murray, John R. Bradford, Richard K. Cook, John E. Nidecker, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:05 pm to 3:12 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 683-013 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 683-13

Date: March 13, 1972
Time: 3:05 pm - 3:12 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull, George H. Mahon, Grover E. Murray, John R.
Bradford, Richard K. Cook and John E. Nidecker; the White House photographer was present at
the beginning of the meeting.

     Introductions
           -Mahon

Bull left at an unknown time before 3:12 pm.

     Introductions
           -Murray
           -Bradford

     The President’s schedule
          -American Society for Engineering Education Conference
               -Invitation to the President to speak
               -Annapolis
               -Importance of conference
               -Decision

                                         (rev. Aug-01)

     Photographs

     Portraits
           -Note

     Maid of Cotton
          -Visit to Washington, DC
          -Request to visit the President

     Cotton Bowl
          -Texas Tech University
          -University of Arkansas

     Odessa College
         -Presidential display
               -The People’s Republic of China [PRC] trip
                     -Chinese box
         -Photograph
               -1969 University of Arkansas-University of Texas football game
               -Air Force One
               -Gift
                     -Chinese scroll
                           -Mahon

     Gifts
             -Cufflinks
             -Scroll
                  -PRC
                  -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
                  -Odessa College
                  -Mahon

     Mahon’s work as a Congressman

     Portrait
           -F. Edward Hebert

Mahon, et al. left at 3:12 pm.

                                         (rev. Aug-01)
Transcript (AI-Generated)

This transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.

But if he could be Secretary of State, he probably, Christ, he can't run an office.
He couldn't be the main human being.
He could go to Ramallah, right?
He was weakness.
But Henry could not run the office of Secretary of State.
It's a hell of a... Sure it is.
It's a good administrative job.
Henry was awesome in models, personal relations.
But Henry is not very good at that job.
Being here is just a stand-up, just as late as we are today, right?
It's great.
I mean, how are we going to do it?
It's great.
I can't wait to feel it.
It's a passionate meeting.
We have 15 minutes to do it, except Kissinger's going to be here.
He has to carry it on.
We'll try to do that in 15 minutes.
And what you've done has shown a lot longer gap, won't it?
They can make it happen.
Early in the morning, we'd like to see you bussing after the pass.
And if that would be all right with you.
All right.
President Chairman Mayhem.
Mr. President, Mr. President, how are you?
Very good.
Good to see you.
Good to see you.
This is President Murray of Texas Tech University.
21,000.
This is an E-divisionary here from Bradford.
They, you know, get to be elected to senior school.
Yeah, that's right.
They're here to pass you the curriculum.
But they're here to advise you to address, at once, the American Society of Engineering Education.
The last campus of the National Convention, Annapolis, and they had 5,000 of them.
So this would be a good spot, we think, with people from all over the nation.
And there's some, it gives you a wide variety of things that you might want to say in June.
And let me just open you up to the impression of the idea, which we realize you can make these memories about.
I appreciate it very much, yes I do.
In any event, whatever I have here, whatever I decide, I want to see it as small as it can be, because of your association.
These are the best people in Texas, absolutely.
You know, we will share with it if we like it.
Come on, let's get a picture, a little presentation.
That would be very entertaining at least.
Well, and I will consider it, but I, you know, I get a little busy.
We never know what's going on.
We haven't met for the rest of it.
We don't know where the beard is.
That's a Dean's dent.
Yeah, and then you've got it on the other side of the beard, like this.
How's that?
That's right.
All right, ma'am.
We don't want to be looking down on the beard without eyes.
That's why we look you through.
He's been doing this longer than I have.
Right.
I appreciate your note about my .
I won't sit for a while, will you?
No, no, but they showed that you didn't have any .
I don't know what it was.
I don't know what it was.
I don't know what it was.
I don't know what it was.
She's from my home town.
And I'm going to come in, she's coming in late tomorrow with Secretary Zettel, the one that we're having lunch with, and you can buy us that lunch, and the corporation's going to approve it.
That's right, that's right.
And so sometimes when we could do... You arranged it, I always say it.
She's a good person.
She is.
All right, bring her in.
That picture of hers is amazing.
She was one of our...
Oh, she's great.
She's a great cop.
Why don't you go out?
Why don't you go out?
Why don't you go out?
I'm telling you this, at another college, I've got Odessa as well.
I know Odessa.
I know Odessa.
they're having a presidential library, a presidential library.
So the college is having a presidential display of everything associated with being president.
So I'm sending out a bunch of pictures, and one of them is a picture that was taken in here before he was a child.
The other is after he was a child.
Now I'm even lending him that Chinese box.
So there's nothing to remind me of.
on Air Force One, going down to the game, the Arkansas-Texas game.
You know that.
Well, there's a bar we're supposed to take, and I'm sending them a million of that.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
It was sent to me.
I think it was one of those scrolls.
It's a small thing, but we had a little scroll we picked up, and we just gave it to them.
Anything that...
It was on the record.
And it was with... Oh, that's...
It was sent to me.
And that...
If you give it to them, then it belongs to you after all.
Well, I'll just tell them that it's the president's office.
He gave this to the man who told you to view it.
That's right.
That's right.
That's the president's way of giving the parents the money now.
This is...
Wooden nickels.
Ah!
Is this for a cup of coffee or coke?
I don't know.
If you're doing this with wooden nickels, it'll lose out on some studies, too.
You're trying to say you already have your documents, aren't you?
Exactly.
When you were here before?
Yes, sir.
We've got it now.
There's the President of Chicago.
It's always the same.
It's the seal of the President.
Let me show you what this is.
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