{"conversationCode":"683-017","tapeNumber":683,"conversationNumber":17,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-683-017","startDateTime":"1972-03-13T20:41:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-03-13T20:48:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Mar-1972","startTime":"3:41 PM","endDate":"13-Mar-1972","endTime":"3:48 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ehrlichman, John D.;","description":"On March 13, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:41 pm and 3:48 pm. 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Price, Jr.\n                      -Draft\n                           -Wording\n          -Meeting with Ehrlichman\n               -Time\n                      -Forthcoming meeting with [Nassir Assar]\n                           -Central Treaty Organization [CENTO]","filename":["683a.mp3","683b.mp3","683c.mp3"],"tapeStart":"05:27:05","tapeEnd":"05:30:26","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. 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