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Nugent\n                    -People’s Republic of China [PRC]\n                          -Jewelry box\n                          -Scroll\n                          -Koala print\n\nBull left.","filename":["685a.mp3","685b.mp3","685c.mp3","685d.mp3"],"tapeStart":"05:40:00","tapeEnd":"05:41:38","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. 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