On March 20, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Ronald L. Ziegler, John D. Ehrlichman, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:50 pm to 3:38 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 689-005 of the White House Tapes.
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They hurt us fast.
That's a good old premier.
But the way they held the New York trip, I mean, considering as much as they moved around and everything, they do all that they did to get back and all that, and they had a very, very good style.
I mean, because, you know, they'll...
I don't want our staff to get discouraged because, you know, they're going to get a hell of a lot to play on.
I doubt it, you know, that they won't.
And I'm quite aware of that.
I've got the wire service, but, you know, see whether the wire is going to end up on them.
I don't mean that it ends up on them.
The wires have to follow them.
The wires have to follow the service because they're there and they have to be there.
But you've seen many times people come in and say, use the wire to remove it.
The one thing that I agree with you, that if it is down the wires, then there's no way to close it down.
Everything we do gets in the wires, doesn't it?
That's right.
Everything we do gets in the wires.
It never fails.
Well, why can't it stay the way it is?
They did a good job, son.
It's just a question of our trying to find what we can do.
And it could well be that what we have to do has got to be zero to be specific.
the specific state kind of thing, you know?
Yeah.
Just figure that, oh Christ, we're going to be able to live here with all our friends.
We're going to go to Ohio.
We're going to go to Spain.
We're going to go to Spain, you know?
We're going to go to the state of Hawaii, all those places.
But you kind of agree with me on that?
That's sort of a good degree, at least we are, yeah.
We ought to be considerate of the fact that those were covered in floors on the last floor.
We had a television reception there.
Very good.
Nobody noticed that, of course.
It stood on the street still.
That helped.
But the television, I mean, the TV will not mention that, but it wasn't that good.
That was important for us to notice.
Two weeks ago and more.
And now we want to play.
We made a decision not to try that experiment.
Maybe we were right after all.
I'm just not sure.
I'm not sure, but there has to be very place about it if you have something like this.
quite a few people don't worry about saying hello to me, and we were all sitting in the back room, angry, just saying, well, this has been such a great story, you know, I was tripped.
So we did not kind of exploit it.
That makes sense.
I wonder if it does.
I wonder if it only makes sense, really.
I don't think people worry much, but they're just dead glad to see whoever went the trip.
I don't know.
If you had it, it wouldn't have made any difference on the National Impression, though, I don't think.
Well, that was our point, that we painted the National Impression, except that news flows in, so...
He would have gone out.
He would have had to go out to do something.
That's right.
What he did wouldn't have been China.
I should talk about John, right?
Well, yeah.
Well, anyway, I think if any plan that you have works out here, that's an awful lot of things, John, but that is excellent.
And why, sweet Saturday, God, man, mother's day, whatever, you know, everything's a rival, and his parents don't have anything else that day.
Let's let that ride like hell.
The, uh...
I'm not so sure the two of you should go to the band today.
I'm not so sure you should go with her to the band today.
Maybe so.
Maybe so.
You're right.
I'm interested.
Everybody's interested in the band.
New York?
New York Times?
Yeah, New York Times had a big block in the Sunday.
No, I think on that, it doesn't quite fit.
Well, it doesn't quite fit.
It reminds me of the president, but the president went out to see the damn candidates, much like he's...
Yeah.
You should receive the ping pong team because that's different.
That's a delegation.
They know I want three dollars.
I want to hire three dollars and put that thing up out here and we'll go out and watch the ping pong.
Or how about we go play the tennis court?
We could go to the tennis court.
Maybe that's the use of the tennis court.
It is a good picture.
It's a different picture.
Put a ping-pong table, put their fences up the way they do it, you know, and a little grandstand down there and get a group of people down there and try everything and go, okay.
Tennis court is very good.
They have no problems.
We're going to play a few games.
But getting back, he stabbed me in the helmet, shot me in the throat, and that bunch, and all the advanced men.
And it worked out so I walked through those people in the right way.
There were some horrible shots.
I'm sure some of the local people got the shots from the locals.
You know, there were blacks and old people and young people.
And I understand, yeah, to get her, God damn, pronounced such a bad thing, got her buried, yeah.
You didn't see any reaction they had.
Blessing they bear, but no black vigilant.
They probably don't want their kids bused.
No, we're not blessing them.
My driving agent is in our strong suit in this war in Paris.
Well, we've got pressure.
And in between, I will do, there's a couple of television press conferences, which should be just about right.
April and May.
As it turns out now, we did one in early April and one in early May.
It's not becoming more easier now.
That's what we had to try to do.
We ended up doing it right about here.
We got it screwed up because of this.
But I'll do it correctly next week.
On the baseball thing, what they're doing is giving Cincinnati a lead.
the day early opener, because the first professional game was played at Cincinnati.
So it's Houston at Cincinnati.
It's the opening game on April 5th.
And then the regular season starts on the 6th.
Well, I'm sure I go.
I've been there.
I'm not sure you've even been invited, but we can arrange the invitation.
There was no problem.
If you want to go, you can certainly get it.
You have been invited to go to the opening game of the California Angels-Texas Rangers in Anaheim.
And it's on April 14th, the day you're going to the, going to Kansas.
At one point we had that, it was possibly to be in California at that time.
I'd love to do that.
But I think April 6th makes points.
The National League, the other opener is on the 6th, but this is the early game.
Then the National League on the 6th, and that's played in Pittsburgh, Houston, and Atlanta tonight, and San Diego and San Francisco now.
The American League is the angels of Minnesota, California, Minnesota, Kansas City, and Texas.
I want to go to Baltimore.
The only opener that counts is the one that takes them.
The first of all season is what the president should have done.
I think going to Cincinnati is a damn good idea.
Get to Central High School and come to Cincinnati before it for a ball game.
Sure.
There we all start.
I just didn't do it.
I'm such an idiot, I went on for most of the night.
Yeah, I went into extra, extra innings and long extra innings.
Well, at that point, I don't have a problem with that opener.
Not much.
That's the problem.
Right?
Yeah.
Maybe it's not so good.
That's the day, the 6th was the day you were going to have the press conference, which could be shifted around a bit.
How does it, they won't have a crowd, right?
If it were the Rangers playing to open their stadium, yeah, I've got a good idea.
Yeah.
You might see when they do open their stadium.
Does that aren't it?
Texas, that's Dallas, Oregon.
Yeah, I don't think it's between Dallas.
Okay, they put on the Kansas City place there.
So that would be there over there.
Kansas City and Texas.
Yeah, but it's still, I still wouldn't.
That's Canada.
No, it doesn't have it.
I suppose there's only one problem with doing a goddamn press conference.
There's always a problem with doing it.
You certainly don't want to do it next year for Passover.
I guess not.
Not the day before Easter.
Well, I don't think I want to do it then.
I'd rather bust in one right now.
for the Wisconsin primary.
Isn't this place about the right place?
We ought to really have it in mind so that I don't get screwed up.
We do.
I'll tell you, I think I should have done that with Dan and Britt.
I don't know.
They're going to talk to people about that.
It's really worth getting out of those places.
There's no point in it.
If it's going to screw us in any way, hell, I'll just go somewhere.
I'll go to the water.
That's the usual way to do it.
I'm just sure he won't be back until the last minute.
I don't know if he'll be back until the last minute.
He may be able to take it.
Maybe he doesn't.
Not at all.
Or have a different date.
I don't know.
i want to see yeah that's it i think it's a shame but it is a problem i mentioned this to bob i have a the thing that happens in this town and it's indicated by this list for you going i mean i haven't shown me that you don't go but i've never pushed for you to go but my wife is strong against my hot blood
Well, you know why.
You know why.
I just got this in.
I got a letter.
And I looked at the sign-up list.
And there are a lot of people on that list who are friends of ours who you would think would normally be the liberal types who, you know, are the typical savage types.
But a lot of people signed their name to the list just because it's kind of the... To the don't-go list?
To the don't-go list.
And once they signed their name to a piece of paper, then, you know, they kind of committed a motion to it.
I was very surprised by the list that people were signed up to.
A lot of people, I mean, would expect to be on, but then there are some that, like Jerry Terholtz, you know, it doesn't make sense.
The man?
Mm-hmm.
Is he a member of the Army?
Ah, don't be terrible.
Excuse me.
Terrible is the number of the Red Army.
There's another one up there.
But they're men assigned to us.
I'm a little bit of a fan.
So what's your advice to all of them?
Would the vice-sergeant go?
well that's the next problem see we never push that the vice president has a speaking engagement with the california republican assembly that night why the hell doesn't he know it on sunday any good question is could we take it forward one day well maybe next time we see we didn't come because just as we were about to do that you decided to do that i think
That might work, it might not.
I don't know what he would hire me.
I think he would scream like a serf all the time when he stands in front and orders me to do it.
But we shouldn't order him and then tell him to do it.
You covered the best of both worlds that way.
See, they don't expect you now.
They expect you to be out of town.
And they came in to see me, not so much to push me going, because I think in the back of their minds they understand me.
But they came in to push for higher representation for the administration.
If you don't go, we teach you.
Rob, get to work on the Sanford compound and see if you can get Agnew to go and move the California Republican Assembly.
I'm going to do it Sunday.
Just think, I'm just asking if you can help with the administration to do it.
Because Rob just won't do it.
You know, you don't want to get called out or anything.
I've told you a good lot.
I don't know if they got to go back, because somebody kind of went back where I don't know where he stopped to try.
He would never go and cease force.
He knows it's going to be rough on him.
He can't take it.
He doesn't do so.
I have no idea about this problem.
I just figured that I just don't want to get this one in the same office.
Jim, we'll stir it up.
There's no question about that.
After looking at this, as I said, we'll stir it up.
Well, yes, sir.
Well, why don't we get to work?
Don't find anything else.
I know.
I haven't figured it out.
Why don't you get out of here?
I don't know.
I'm going to get this out to you.
Will you work on that, Bob?
Sure.
Getting that in today.
Excuse me, are you going to go to Florida?
Yes, I'm going to Florida.
All right.
That's pretty much it.
I'm going to go to Florida.
Okay.
That's what we want to do.
All right.
I know that I can change my mind.
What he will say, he'll say no.
I say, well, I just feel very strongly that I shouldn't be there.
And I say, well, the option then is the president has to go.
And it's a question of which is better for the administration.
It's pretty clear at this point that it's not going to be a better idea for you to be there than for the president to be there.
Then he'll say, if the president orders me to go, then I'll go.
And I'll tell you this.
Provided we can take the other change, though.
And he'll take it from me to say, is this an order from the president?
It is, and of course I will go.
Or he may say I have to appeal it.
It's in the best interest of the administration, in the best interest of...
He's getting to say, you know, he's getting some good pressure these days.
This may help, you know, people who think bullshit.
There isn't any other way.
Then we gotta work on trying to change the CRA date.
If they can't change it, tell Mitchell he has to go to the CRA.
Which probably won't satisfy them, because I guess Reagan...
They can do things Sunday night.
They do things on Saturday night.
Okay, there's probably about three golf days already set up on the other thing.
I'm sorry, you can fly on Sunday morning and after the beer night.
Play golf in the afternoon and do the CRV in the night.
Well, Mike, what are your problems today?
I don't think they've got great ones.
Well, I'm going to brief that in the meeting, but I'm going to make all the basis with you beforehand.
I want to make sure, in raising this, if I'm asked to handle it right, where you call for the severest penalties for the traffic, some of these enemies, they're going to try and drive that into it.
Well, it's the president's mean to death penalty for the traffic.
I'm inclined not to even let him open that up at this point by simply saying the president says that the most- We're talking about their state.
First of all, most of these offenses are at the state level.
And the question is a great range of expressions.
Fifteen years ago, the U.S. was a very, very popular country.
I can understand the severe penalties provided by law.
There should be no reduction of penalties for injuries.
And you can also say this, and I can help you with this, I can say this.
Well, if they get into that in general terms, you've always been for the death penalty.
I won't get into it today.
I don't want to work you back on it.
That's what I have to say.
Because we are not in a position to go to the Congress on this.
Just say that the Congress provided, that the defendants provided the record for arranging this.
I'm saying that every state, every state court, and every federal prosecutor should ask for the highest value of the death penalty.
and not settle these cases as to what matters more.
There's a huge amount of evidence, and too many traffickers have been getting off the slack for us to use that time.
Now, I believe that we've got
No, that's fine.
I just want to make sure.
Just so I'm clear on this, having gotten over the drug thing, handling it this way, then if some guy steps up in the back of the room and says, well, Ron, what is the president's position on the death penalty, not relating to dope or drugs or the traffic you borrow?
I think I'd just say that we've always been for it.
That's right.
I'm not going to get into that.
She's always been for it.
The President believes that in certain crimes, the President is partly used to them.
Let the religious people squeal.
They will.
Sorry, I can't change that.
I promise you I will.
We're examining this now, and I think we're going to come up with some stronger federal metrics.
But I don't think you want to put that over his body.
You didn't notice that I examined the various people on the penalty side of the case.
And the question is that the penalties are accurate.
It's quite clear to the judges that the prosecutor is asking for.
And the judges have provided the severest penalties, rather than letting these people off a fine sentence by agreement in order to clear the court of operants.
And you can also find out that as a result, which probably you're not aware of, you may recall as a result of RNA, we increased the benefits for this in the drug.
The RNA is trying to, the antibodies have been crushed.
The question now is the same.
It definitely comes up as a necessary matter, wouldn't it?
They were there in the past.
In the case.
What about this?
How common are we for the comment only upon the existing?
Very severe, and is there a right for it in the federal law?
In some sense.
But we should not believe it.
Well, I think Ron's coming down on Sunday.
I hate to put it that way.
He'll squeal like a stuffed pig.
Yep.
Is there any other comment?
I'll say it later.
Are there any questions?
Ladies and gentlemen, I'll just try to direct your son, for instance.
With the women's bed, we haven't got excusers today, have we?
I don't know if you want to play into their hands.
I don't know if you want to play into their hands.
I don't know if you want to play into their hands.
I don't know if you want to play into their hands.
I don't know if you want to play into their hands.
I don't know if you want to play into their hands.
I don't know if you want to play into their hands.
and they're real tough, and hope you will help me out in that way.
We just, we can't go to the gridiron and say, what are you going to do?
Well, what we know is, we think that if we keep playing with the hands of the rabbits, that if we're not representing the president, we're very pleased with what we've been receiving lately from some of the bastards in the press, who are going to be called to the administration.
It would be helpful at this point if you could go.
I know you've got to stay in California.
You've got to get around the changes.
And it's very, very difficult.
I've watched one scene for this area on Sunday.
I think it was Sunday brunch or something like that.
Anyway, he has to go there.
He can do it all right inside.
It has a hell of a nerve even to ask him to come.
Ask me to come first, though.
He said, no, no, no.
He said, I can't do it.
I've got to realize that.
To go to sleep with people that have got MCRE.
Unbelievable.
Bob, you recall, in 62, everybody's obsessed with that downward incision.
And it's nothing.
It's nothing.
But you get one day in the story, correct?
Yeah.
i have an idea about the political operations
What I'm getting at is that politics is politics.
The idols of your country, the people of your country, are all over every goddamn thing you do.
They want to credit after you.
And I'll bury you if you just try to impress your peers and slurs and so forth and so on and so on.
It's something worth considering.
Of course, I suppose the problem is that you eventually won't play it hard enough.
It's going to be those of us, not the Republican National Committee.
That is the other thing.
The Committee to Realize the Present.
Where is the first column?
See, the White House has the aspect of appearing to use its superpower as a government channel.
Aren't you curious whether that is a disadvantage or not?
There sure is a lot of particles.
There sure is to the degree we get caught.
I see a campaign going on, frankly.
Would you not agree?
Yeah.
The problem is getting it done.
Put it over there.
What do you mean?
You blew Colson over there?
I don't know, maybe he would.
Maybe he'd rather have him under his control than not.
And it isn't all that bad either, you know.
The White House is there.
Using the White House for political purposes, that's what we're using.
This is a political attack and we're trying to answer a political attack.
Oh, sure, it's false.
The Justice Department is false.
They're putting it under the guise of a substantive governmental attack.
They can't very well.
I think they're trying to play with ideas, you know, to get us the hell out of here in some way.
And I answered Ron's question, which is pretty good.
Otherwise, Ron is up there.
Now, when he, when anything goes to the election committee, he's got a pretty good answer, but that's not the problem for them.
But if it's here in the White House, he's got an answer to this.
Why?
He's a good soldier, you know.
He's smart enough to know exactly what questions these sons of bitches will ask.
I'll drop that.
Yeah.
But you have a better answer.
No, it just picks up as you ride it through here, but that's...
If you move it over there...
It's perfectly effective in this function.
What he's doing, he can't use the Y-axis.
The reason he's using the Y-axis, there's sort of one thing is that then you have to use
private funding to do what we're now doing at a government expense.
We can't control it.
We can still use it.
You can check on a doctor, see if his phone is buffered or something.
We can do that, yeah.
I'm concerned about that.
The rest of it I don't understand, but I've been able to watch the story, so it has to be from the inside.
We were just talking about who's going to be our best guy.
Once that lawyer proceeds to investigate, it's clear they're going to move on.
I think I had everybody who was affected.
Sure.
I was interested in that.
I think we're all here together.
We're going to get some big gap between them.
It must be on all sides.
Just a slaughter.
It shows that maybe campaigning is all that good, as far as I'm concerned, right?
Maybe bad.
But they're on the wrong side.
On the other side, they're the county men.
And it hasn't been canvassed.
And either by a matter of fact, in this curious way, we kind of stayed somewhat the same.
You know what I mean?
Grover was down in bed, and on the other hand, there was a space mechanic, and it's always been 41, 38, 46, 33.
I'm sure he's done everything to figure that out.
That's 49, 43.
Yeah.
52, 41.
Why are all tears?
Tears is 51, 40.
But both of our polls have shown Kennedy's known to live.
No, ever since our polls have shown Kennedy the strongest candidate ever.
It's only Gallup and Harris that have shown Muskie the strongest.
You know what I mean?
Muskie's still at the 44-49.
Gallup said Muskie at 43-42 in February.
Galloping?
Must have had a galloping.
42-42-10, that's in the three-way race.
He doesn't do the two-way.
He started 44-40 at a later time.
That was Harrison.
44-40-11.
We're the ones who showed this big galloping, must be, huh?
We showed it in January, too, didn't we?
Galloping, we had 52.
In January, we had 52-36.
While in the two, in the three-way race, we had 46.32 against Smart Star.
And Gallup showed a one-point.
Gallup showed a 43.42 in January and 43.42 in February.
And we don't have Gallup and Smart Star on each of them.
While ours can't be that far off, Teeters shows it.
Teeters showed it in the three-way, 46.37, 11 points for us.
Yeah.
And now, ours shows, that was in January, and ours in January was 46.32.
Ours showed even worse.
But now, now it doesn't show much.
Ours shows 44.30.
Same.
14 points.
And then in three ways.
In two ways, 52.37.
15 points.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Coming back to ITP, there's no way that you can change any of that, except by an attack on the credibility of the case.
I don't think so.
We've argued all this in an emergency.
Nobody believes in it.
At least, it's part of the problem.
Only 29% are aware of it at the beginning, but how the hell do you get in some trouble by making your argument?
You don't get a third of the people that are less than a third of the people that are not going to college.
Yeah.
The awareness thing.
Because also, of those that are aware, most of them are aware in favor of the agenda.
Yeah.
Showing, therefore, it's about that hard case itself.
People always think the worst about the government.
They really do.
Well, I'm sure like that sister in Iran.
They put the death penalty in for... ...ghost hunters.
They executed a hundred and twenty-seven in 1971.
It's goddamn fertility.
That's what's happening in Japan now.
I said that's what's happened in China too, the goddamn riots.
They eliminated narcotics, not like they did by killing everybody that... That's right, that's right.
We can talk all we want about it.
They've taken their addicts and put them in preserves as opiates.
They've put their addicts in homes and given them their opiates.
Just let them die like our natural deaths.
Let me tell you, they're killing them all.
A lot of the young people are snapping that off.
See, that's it.
And that's the answer to that, oh, the addicts.
Really.
The real problem is what you do with the new beginners.
And it's just all over the university.
Our son in the ninth grade in high school says, everybody.
And I said, well, you can't really mean everybody.
And he said, well, there may be two or three kids that don't.
He said, I wouldn't know which ones they are.
Watch out.
Not for him, but watch out for those kids.
I don't, he claims that he does, but I don't believe it.
I think he does.
I think he has used it.
He says that it is no matter regular use that they have used it and they're not afraid to.
That's why this son of a bitch, Chaser, coming to Mars, had a lot of kids using it.
The parents are asked about it.
legalized marijuana, right?
The only argument the parents have left now, because the scientists have shot down everything else, Sebastian just said it's not harmful, and it's not habit-forming, and it's not this, it's not that, and it's not as bad as drinking, and if your old man has a vaccine, why the hell can't you pop a little marijuana?
So they shot you down on everything and all you got left to say is, all that's just fine, except it is against the law.
If you get caught with it, you're in trouble.
Well, don't you believe in that?
Hell, yes.
So I sure do.
Matter of fact, we probably would have a prohibition to conduct any work.
But that's your problem with marijuana.
I think you're getting to a point where you may be.
Or it won't work.
Or it won't work.
Just like prohibition.
If you want to do this, should I step up and say, okay, we have legalized marijuana?
Who was it?
If it isn't going to work, even if McCluskey came out against that.
That's right.
If it isn't going to work, let your successor be president unless the bar is down on that.
Well, I put the line up to these people.
I just have to apologize and tell them to get the word to the people and the...
I don't think that we've got a plan .
But it's a good place in New York, which is important to us.
And the way I can actually live and play, which is not anything that's on television, you're probably not.
But don't worry about it.
You've got to deal with these things.
That stuff in the customs line might.
There's a little human interest in that.
Well, there's an interest in it now.
There's a Jewish couple, an English couple, and the young people that we're searching for.
Well, they're all in here for this meeting, and we'll mention them.
Something that may come up at this meeting is the question of 25 more customizations.
I've got that, and I'm supposed to say it's okay.
Well, I talked to Conway about those conditions, and he's agreed.
So I don't think you need to go too heavy on the conditions table.
You understand it is on some conditions, and the Secretary of Commerce is going to work it out.
I hadn't.
That's all I can say.
And I didn't mention doing the social security thing.
Could I just suggest this, and Rob's asking whether it's a matter of time that we should really recover that?
I said, of course, we have laws on the state level, on the federal level, with various elements of punishment, and the highest punishment, and those are right, those laws should go to these men and women, and they should cop out.
I said, that's a real prank information, I'm looking into whether we can make it, and I said, right, I've got this, and I agreed.
You know, most people have forgotten that we increase the penalties in our own on the strike.
That's correct.
That's correct.
We did.
Why don't you remind her, have people remind her of that.
We did it on explosives.
Tracking.
That's right.
Bombers.
We call them high-deck bombers.
High-deck.
High-deck.
Let me tell you, I have a ceiling.
A ceiling.
Yeah.
I was going to say, I have a ceiling, too.
And I know that people are in it, and I know exactly why they say it.
Take the line that Crowe is presenting, the important things, the Japanese things, what we know is important.
But in those countries that have stopped, they haven't done it.
People are missing this.
I'm sure they haven't.
They haven't done it.
I keep on answering.
In Japan, in China, and in Iran, you know what they do now.
They've gone.
That's right, sir.
And what I'm getting at is the treatment for the addicts and all that sort of thing.
If the addicts go away, it's all right, I'm for it.
I think it's important.
It's a humanitarian thing to do.
But as far as that angry guy sitting out there in front of the tube, what's that guy that's on that toilet?
What's he thinking about?
He said, Jesus Christ.
I mean, what a new word.
Do you agree or not?
Let's talk about that.
Unless he did these left-wing suspicions, of course, he was a pro.
I did not support the principle.
I think he found the line.
Right there.
It's a maximum allowable.
Rather than negotiating down the mountain.
And if Ron gets cornered, he can say, well, you heard Rockefeller.
He said that our federal residents are going to have to go to the state court because the placements were more severe in the state court than they were in the federal court.
Right.
But you will look into seeing whether there's any sort of, for an interstate traffic, in other words, distinguishing somebody that's not a...
It's a Lindbergh law kind of thing.
A Lindbergh law thing.
Why shouldn't you, why shouldn't they have that kind of thing?
You don't think so?
I don't believe it.
It doesn't bother me.
It doesn't bother any part of me.
Believe me, I didn't kidnap her to get the death penalty.
I didn't visit her.
I didn't get those bombers to get the death penalty.
God made up these people.
He's not going to stop them.
No, I don't have any trouble with that.
Has it been considered?
Did we consider it before?
Yes, we did.
And we're trying to get it in a whole file, full promise.
But the problem is, we could just limit it to interstate traffickers and dangerous drugs.
Is there any way you can say how much they carry or this and that?
No, I don't think you'd want to limit your block test.
The guy might get a gram over or a gram under.
How do you do it so that you don't get a quarter gram?
We'll be back to that.
It's in the works.
I think we have more of them.
I'll tell you why we don't have mine.
Yes.
that they're doing something at this field.
We were in confidence.
You see, the whole business is about busing.
They've got to learn from the fact that they're arguing about it.
They already do that where they need to, because they're hundreds.
Yeah, okay.
You know, the setup in that, they've got a capping still, a heroin still, and a set of teacups that everybody's got a bag of heroin in each place.
A little party favor.
Take your hair out of the way.
Looks like about $500,000 worth.
What do you think of an operation like today?
Is it just too picky with grandstands?
No, I don't think so.
In the first place, we're doing something locally.
Actually, we're locally good.
I agree.
They're going to play locally.
I have no doubt about that.
New York will play.
I would be very surprised if the networks didn't carry the footage in the custom chat.
Because it was colorful.
It was interesting.
We were interacting with people.
And it's different.
But, uh, my new sense is not infallible.
You know, you never know.
You look back, remember we've often said what you guys have done in the police service.
Remember when you tried to do this for a while?
You haven't talked to any of the press guys.
Might just as well have stood in there and hung it up.
We did a beautiful job, didn't we?
We had the sons of bitches sitting in there.
But part of it, they didn't believe in it.
They didn't want to go.
Come on in.
You're all set?
Okay.
Okay.