{"conversationCode":"697-006","tapeNumber":697,"conversationNumber":6,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-697-006","startDateTime":"1972-03-30T16:30:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-03-30T16:32:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Mar-1972","startTime":"11:30 AM","endDate":"30-Mar-1972","endTime":"11:32 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.; Woods, Rose Mary;","description":"On March 30, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, and Rose Mary Woods met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:30 am to 11:32 am. 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Ziegler.\n\n     The President's schedule\n          -Press\n               -Meeting with American Cancer Society representatives\n                      -Compared to Hussein ibn Talal [Hussein, King of Jordan] meeting\n                           -Length of availability to press\n                      -Retarded child [Kevin Heald]\n                      -[Calvin Hill]\n               -Wire services\n               -Length of availability to press\n                      -Hussein meeting\n                      -American Cancer Society meeting\n                      -Meeting with Heald\n\nRose Mary Woods entered at an unknown time after 11:30 am.\n\n     Meeting with Mr. and Mrs. Oliver W. Rudd, Jr. [\"Julia Meade\"]\n\nZiegler and Woods left.","filename":["697-006-splice.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:57:41","tapeEnd":"02:00:45","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L.","Woods, Rose Mary"],"prevCode":"697-005","nextCode":"697-007","tapeTranscriptFile":"697a.mp3,697b.mp3,697c.mp3","transcript":[{"start":7075.53,"end":7082.82,"text":"I want to tell you, would you be sure to answer some of these in the future today?"},{"start":7082.96,"end":7086.6,"text":"I'm sure they would come a little quicker."},{"start":7086.84,"end":7089.91,"text":"And Jordan, they've been here an awful long time."},{"start":7090.03,"end":7095.85,"text":"And when we sit there, they, in our face, I don't want to press in for a length of time."},{"start":7095.87,"end":7099.51,"text":"I don't want to take their picture and get out."},{"start":7099.91,"end":7104.94,"text":"Because there's no place in us sitting around trying to make a small talk."},{"start":7105.28,"end":7106.18,"text":"Do you think so?"},{"start":7106.22,"end":7115.46,"text":"Well, particularly with the cancer thing, the reason I like the door thing, I don't know if all the birds they can use that to build and talk under to kill you with the game, but... Oh, perhaps."},{"start":7115.8,"end":7116.62,"text":"No, no, no."},{"start":7116.74,"end":7117.81,"text":"And they did use it."},{"start":7117.85,"end":7121.13,"text":"The exception... No, not the..."},{"start":7122.87,"end":7126.61,"text":"I didn't feel it was the exception."},{"start":7126.69,"end":7129.03,"text":"I mean, maybe this kind of stuff."},{"start":7129.09,"end":7130.17,"text":"Well, particularly."},{"start":7133.66,"end":7135.36,"text":"We'll do this one."},{"start":7135.89,"end":7139.77,"text":"This is the two wires."},{"start":7139.79,"end":7140.45,"text":"That's all we need."},{"start":7140.49,"end":7141.53,"text":"We don't need to redo it."},{"start":7141.57,"end":7143.67,"text":"That's what we did the other day."},{"start":7143.77,"end":7144.99,"text":"Very quickly."},{"start":7145.03,"end":7147.03,"text":"Because they never used it."},{"start":7147.05,"end":7147.25,"text":"But..."},{"start":7149.79,"end":7151.43,"text":"Well, they do what they do."},{"start":7151.77,"end":7155.83,"text":"But if I like what the case is saying, I kind of give them about 40 seconds."},{"start":7155.91,"end":7158.3,"text":"If not, it's just a waste of your time."},{"start":7158.53,"end":7159.49,"text":"No, thank you."},{"start":7159.57,"end":7162.68,"text":"In other words, it's not for our benefit at all."},{"start":7162.78,"end":7166.3,"text":"It's not for our benefit."},{"start":7166.4,"end":7169.86,"text":"It's only for the benefit of some promoter here in town."},{"start":7183.38,"end":7184.66,"text":"Yes sir, thank you."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":7061,"end":7245,"startMethod":"llm-alignment","endMethod":"llm-alignment"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler and personal secretary Rose Mary Woods to coordinate upcoming press logistics and limit the duration of presidential photo opportunities. Nixon expressed frustration over previous media encounters, specifically citing meetings with the American Cancer Society and King Hussein of Jordan, and directed Ziegler to keep upcoming sessions brief to avoid unproductive small talk. The group ultimately decided to restrict press coverage to wire services to ensure minimal disruption to the President’s schedule.","topics":["Press Relations","Presidential Scheduling","Media Management","Public Relations","White House Operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T02:47:26.815Z"},"topicSlugs":["press-relations","presidential-scheduling","media-management","public-relations","white-house-operations"],"audioDurationSec":187,"audioFiles":[{"file":"697-006-splice.mp3","bytes":4488925,"durationSec":187.01,"bitrate":192028,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-10-27T04:38:08.842Z","originalFilename":["697a.mp3","697b.mp3","697c.mp3"],"spliceSource":{"spliceType":"bigtape","sourceFiles":["697a.mp3"],"cutStart":7059.5,"cutEnd":7246.5,"adjustedStart":7059.5,"adjustedEnd":7246.5,"boundaryMethod":"llm-alignment","confidence":"high","splicedAt":"2026-10-27T04:38:08.842Z"},"transcriptPrev":{"segments":33,"replacedAt":"2026-10-27T04:44:02.890Z"},"audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/697-006-splice.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/697-006","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/697/conversation-697-006","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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