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Conversation 007-054

TapeTape 7StartMonday, August 2, 1971 at 1:17 PMEndMonday, August 2, 1971 at 1:18 PMTape start time02:23:52Tape end time02:25:44ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Boggs, J. CalebRecording deviceWhite House Telephone
AI Summary

President Nixon lobbied Senator J. Caleb Boggs to support a government loan guarantee for the Lockheed Corporation, citing concerns raised by California Governor Ronald Reagan regarding the potential for increased unemployment in Southern California. Boggs explained that he faced significant political pressure in Delaware, noting that his colleague in the House and local news journals were staunchly opposed to the measure. While Boggs remained noncommittal due to his local political climate, he agreed to keep his vote open, prompting Nixon to suggest the administration would exert influence on Boggs's colleague.

Lockheed CorporationLoan GuaranteesUnemploymentDelaware PoliticsCongressional Lobbying
AudioNARA Description

On August 2, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and J. Caleb Boggs talked on the telephone from 1:17 pm to 1:18 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 007-054 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 7-54

Date: August 2, 1971
Time: 1:17 pm - 1:18 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with J. Caleb Boggs.
[See Conversation No. 553-6M]

     Lockheed Amendment
         -The President's talk with Ronald W. Reagan
              -Supersonic transport [SST]
              -California unemployment rate
         -Delaware
              -Pierre S. DuPont
              -News journals
              -William V. Roth, Jr.
Transcript (AI-Generated)

This transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.

Hello.
Mr. President, this is Mr. Boggs.
Yeah.
Hello, Caleb?
Yes, sir, Mr. President.
Say, I'm sorry to get you out of your meeting.
No, that's all right.
It's a privilege to talk to you.
And I don't want to try to arm you with an old friend, but as you know, I've just been talking to Ron Reagan, and he's a
Of course, he's very close to the problem, but he says that after the SST loses, if they lose this Lockheed thing, he says it's going to have a psychological impact in Southern California.
We've got about 9.5% unemployment.
That's unbelievable.
And I just wanted to let you know, and if you can see your way clear to turn your back a little, I would appreciate it.
You're great.
I'm trying, Mr. President, on this.
I have a particular peculiar situation in Delaware.
I have
my colleague over in the House side voted against it.
Oh.
And I don't want to be quoted.
I think my colleague, a member of the committee here, is going to be against it.
And my news journal papers and everything I... Everything you have.
My area there is against it.
And the news journal papers, instead of just editorializing one time against it, I've done it four times.
Four.
That's right.
And...
I was just talking to my colleague a little while ago.
I told him I went so far as to tell him, I said, hopeful that he could vote for it, which would make it easier for me.
I said, Bill, if you vote for it, now I can vote for it.
You're a member of the committee.
Well, he's afraid he can't.
Yeah, well, maybe we'll see what we can do there.
I'm going to keep open on the thing.
Clear up until I cast my vote for the president.
I understand.
It's all we can ask.
We'll have to get at him.
You're great to call.
Thanks.
Bye.
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