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Start Date: 3-Apr-1972 4:32 PM

End Date: 3-Apr-1972 5:36 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Butterfield, Alexander P.Ehrlichman, John D.Sanchez, ManoloBull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 03:10:36

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 04:14:27

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NARA Description:

On April 3, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Alexander P. Butterfield, John D. Ehrlichman, Manolo Sanchez, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:32 pm to 5:36 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 700-010 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 700-10

Date: April 3, 1972
Time: 4:32 pm - 5:36 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

     John D. Ehrlichman
          -Preparations for meeting with Henry A. Kissinger
          -Speech
               -Raymond K. Price, Jr.
          -Speech
               -Price
          -Discussion with John B. Connally
               -The President's trip to Philadelphia
               -Tax reform proposal

     Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
          -Speech at National Cathedral School

     The President's schedule
          -Price
          -Appointments
                -Vietnam
          -Speech draft
                -Work

     Education representative, Sidney P. Marland, Jr.
         -Speech to convention
                -The President's greetings

     Book by Russell Kirk
         -The President's memorandum
         -A Program for Conservatives
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                               Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. 10/06)
                                                                Conv. No. 700-10 (cont.)


     -[Dwight] David Eisenhower, IIand Julie Nixon Eisenhower
          The Conservative Mind
     -Publication
     -Cover
          -Title
                -Problems
     -Copies
          -Staff members
          -Patricia H. Alsop
          -Mix-up
                -Julie Nixon Eisenhower

Drug speech
     -Further work by the President
     -Hotline
     -Television
     -Radio delivery
     -Television delivery
           -Problems
     -Radio speech
           -Value
           -Drafting
     -Problem of drugs
           -John R. (“Tex”) McCrary, Richard A> Moore and Dwight L. Chapin
           -Personification
                -Myles J. Ambrose
                      -Compared with J. Edgar Hoover
                -John N. Mitchell
                -Ambrose
                      -Presence at arrests
                      -McCrary
           -Announcements
                -New penalties
                -Hotline
                      -Phone company
                            -Notification
     -Radio speech

Press conference
      -McCrary
           -Office
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                               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                         Tape Subject Log
                                           (rev. 10/06)
                                                                    Conv. No. 700-10 (cont.)


                       -Photograph pool
                            -Need for more film
                                 -Television
           -Problems
                -Timing
                -Meeting with editors

     The President's schedule
          -Open weeks
          -Vietnam
               -Bombing
               -Weather breaks


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[Duration: 3m 14s ]


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Alexander P. Butterfield entered at 4:41 pm.

     Ehrlichman
           -Meeting with the President

Butterfield left at 4:42 pm.

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
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[Duration: 3m 17s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
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                                        Tape Subject Log
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    Polls
            -ITT case
                 -Impact
                       -Dita D. Beard
            -Busing
            -Food prices
                 -Negative impact

    Busing
         -Ehrlichman


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
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[Duration: 11s ]


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    Media relations
        -Story on young men in administration
               -People's Republic of China [PRC]
                    -Ronald L. Ziegler
                    -Winston Lord
        -Life
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                 Conv. No. 700-10 (cont.)


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
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[Duration: 9s ]


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John D. Ehrlichman entered at 4:52 pm.

     Greetings

     Ehrlichman’s schedule

Haldeman left at 4:53 pm.

     Busing
          -Ehrlichman's role in issue
                -Charles W. Colson
          -Clark MacGregor
                -Meeting with southern congressmen
          -Edward L. Morgan
          -Administration's position
                -Publicity in Michigan
          -Fifty cities
                -Visits
          -Moratorium strategy
                -Work with Congress
                       -Jacob K. Javits
                            -Need to counteract
                -Votes in conference
                       -Morgan
                -Impact in California

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 4:53 pm.

     Refreshment
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 10/06)
                                                                Conv. No. 700-10 (cont.)



The President left at an unknown time before 5:36 pm.

     Refreshments

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 5:36 pm.

     [No conversation]

The President entered at an unknown time after 4:53 pm.

     Busing
          -California
          -Administration's statement
                -Television
          -California
                -Ehrlichman's visits

     Ehrlichman's visit to California
           -St. Helena


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
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[Duration: 27s ]


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          -Busing issue
               -Interest
                     -Blacks
               -Support for the President


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                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                               Conv. No. 700-10 (cont.)



BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
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[Duration: 2m 44s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7

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    Busing
         -Constitutional amendment
               -Racial division
               -Alienation of poor blacks
               -Los Angeles Times
               -Wine growers in Napa Valley
         -Los Angeles Times colloquy
               -Ehrlichman's meeting
                     -Davis
                     -[Unknown person]
                     -Richard Burkholtz
                     -Carl [?] [Surname unknown]
                     -Tony Day
                     -Burkholtz
         -Administration position
               -Opposition to court ordered busing
                     -Distinction from voluntary busing
                     -State of the Union speech
                     -Democratic principles
                           -David Eisenhower
         -Polls
               -Ehrlichman’s talks with Haldeman
               -Questions on popular perceptions
                     -Lyndon K. (“Mort”) Allin
         -Media
               -Confusion of issues
               -Editorial writers
               -Publicity for administration's opposition
                     -Busing
               -[First name unknown] Mitchell
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                         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. 10/06)
                                                              Conv. No. 700-10 (cont.)


              -Marion W. Edelman
              -National Broadcasting Company [NBC] special
                   -Edelman
                   -Howard H. Baker, jr.
                   -Abraham A. Ribicoff
                         -Busing in north
                   -Administration's opposition
         -Congress
              -Strom Thurmond
              -Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8
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[Duration: 1m 26s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8

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    Bay of Pigs files
         -Orders for Department of Defense
               -David Young
                      -J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr.
         -Lucien E. Conein
         -White House involvement
         -Richard M. Helms
         -John A. McCone
         -Allan W. Dulles
         -Helms
               -Involvement in Bay of Pigs incident
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)
                                                             Conv. No. 700-10 (cont.)


Pentagon Papers
     -J. William Fulbright hearings
           -Release of "Kennedy papers"
           -Fulbright's intentions
           -Vietnam
     -Files on assassinations
           -Television documentary
           -Kennedy allies
           -Life

Victor L. Marchetti
     -Publication of story on CIA
           -Helms's concern
           -Reasons for concern
           -Harm to CIA
     -Law suit against Marchetti
           -Breach of contract
           -Criminal suit
           -Injunction

Population Commission
     -Ehrlichman's meetings with John D. Rockefeller III
           -Nelson A. Rockefeller's calls to Ehrlichman
     -Proposals for the President
           -Treatment
                 -Abortion
                 -Compared with Marijuana commission
           -Administration's disagreement
                 -The President’s population message
                 -Handling
                       -Patrick J. Buchanan’s view
                             -Effect on Nelson Rockefeller
     -Abortion issue
           -Political opposition
           -Support
                 -Control of blacks and Puerto Ricans
     -Vasectomies
     -White House approval
           -Statement on abortion
           -Consideration of other proposals
                 -John Rockefeller
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                               Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. 10/06)
                                                         Conv. No. 700-10 (cont.)


                      -Talk with Ehrlichman
          -Personal conscience
          -Support for population control
               -John Rockefeller
               -Social classes
                      -Upper classes
                      -Lower classes
                           -Lack of control
               -San Francisco
                      -Black population growth
     -Blacks
          -Low standard of living
          -Migration to cities
     -Administration's dealings with commission
          -William W. Scranton
          -Meeting with John Rockefeller
          -John Rockefeller's staff director
               -Length of meeting
          -Meeting with John Rockefeller
               -Call from Nelson Rockefeller
               -Vietnam

Declassification of secret documents
     -John S. D. Eisenhower
     -Executive Order
           -Timing
     -Review procedure
           -Disputes
                 -Resolution
           -John Eisenhower appointment
     -John Eisenhower
           -Author of a book
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                        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                   Tape Subject Log
                                     (rev. 10/06)
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 9
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[Duration: 6s ]


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              -Submission of name for position

    US Postal Service [USPS]
        -Ehrlichman's meeting with Elmer T. (“Ted”) Klassen
               -Rate raise
                     -Klassen's opposition
        -Parcel post
               -Damage rate
               -Competition from United Parcel Service [UPS]
               -Reform
                     -Cuts in work force
                     -Low productivity
                     -Overstaffing
        -Personnel
               -Turn-over
               -Cuts in work force
                     -Problems
                           -Election year
               -Freeze on hiring
               -Congressional hearings
               -Firings
               -Rate increase compared to overstaffing
               -Conflicts
                     -Hiring of youths
                           -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
                           -Costs
        -Youth
               -Defense Department
               -Alternative jobs
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                            Conv. No. 700-10 (cont.)


               -Civil Service Commission, Agnew and Office of Management and
                     Budget [OMB]
     -Freeze
           -Jennings Randolph
                -Complaints
     -Firings
           -Top people

ITT case
     -George S. McGovern
          -Staff
                -Frank F. Mankiewicz
                -Links with Edward M. Kennedy
          -Comments on corporation taxes
                -Inaccuracies
                      -San Diego incident
                -Press criticism
                      -Colson
                      -Lyndon B. Johnson
                      -John F. Kennedy
                -Falsehood of statement
                -Question on panel Issues and Answers
     -Payment of taxes
          -Annual report
          -Security and Exchange Commission [SEC] files
                -Public record
     -Hubert H. Humphrey
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                         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                              Conv. No. 700-10 (cont.)


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 10
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 1m 21s ]


STEPHEN B. BULL ENTERED AT AN UNKNOWN TIME AFTER 4:52 PM.

BULL LEFT AT AN UNKNOWN TIME BEFORE 5:36 PM.


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    ITT Case
         -Beard's charges
               -Vance Hartke
                     -Use of airplane
                           -The President's experience
         -Robert C. (“Bob”) Wilson
               -Use of ITT support
               -Ties with ITT
         -Antitrust suit
               -Richard W. McLaren
               -Harold S. Geneen
               -Peter M. Flanigan
               -Agnew
               -Wilson [?]
               -John B. Connally
               -Peter G. Peterson
               -Pressures to drop suit
                     -Flanigan
         -Geneen
               -Acquaintance with the President
               -Meeting with Ehrlichman and Colson
                     -Memorandum to Ehrlichman
               -Acquaintance with the President
                     -Memorandum
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                    Conv. No. 700-10 (cont.)


                            -Alexander P. Butterfield
                            -Staff secretary
                            -Haldeman
                 -Dealings with Flanigan
                 -Memorandum to Ehrlichman
           -Antitrust suit
                 -John N. Mitchell
                       -Importance of case
                 -Richard G. Kleindienst
                       -Problems
           -Contributions
                 -Flanigan's knowledge
                 -Discussion
           -Antitrust suit
                 -Geneen's comments
                 -Memorandum to Ehrlichman
                 -Mitchell and Kleindienst
                       -Meeting with Geneen
                            -Letter to [Forename unknown] O'Brien
                       -Denial

     White House staff
          -Ehrlichman’s schedule
          -Necessity to relax
                -Ehrlichman, Colson, Haldeman and Kissinger
          -Use of Camp David
          -Facilities
          -President’s trip to the Soviet Union

Ehrlichman left at 5:36 pm.