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Start Date: 4-Apr-1972 3:45 PM

End Date: 4-Apr-1972 5:06 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Kissinger, Henry A.Butterfield, Alexander P.Mitchell, John N.Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Sanchez, ManoloLucet, CharlesWhite House photographer

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:58:02

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:19:43

702b.mp3

NARA Description:

On April 4, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, Alexander P. Butterfield, John N. Mitchell, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Manolo Sanchez, Charles Lucet, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:45 pm to 5:06 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 702-007 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 702-7

Date: April 4, 1972
Time: 3:45 pm - 5:06 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Henry A. Kissinger.


     Vietnam
          -Air srikes
                -Marine panes
                      -Maneuvers
                      -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                      -Quality
                      -Close air support
                           -Air Force
                      -Accuracy
                -Ceiling
          -North Vietnamese offensive
                -Troop withdrawals
                      -Impact
                      -Figures
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                -Public relations
            -Cuts
      -US measures
            -Nelson A. Rockefeller
                  -Haiphong
                  -Support for blockade
      -Weather
            -Clearance
      -US measures
            -Haig
            -Proposals
                  -White House
                  -Gen. Creighton W. Abrams, Jr.
            -Personnel bombs
      -Air strikes
            -Targets
      -South Vietnamese strategy
            -News summary
            -Quang Tri
            -Retreat
                  -Value
                  -Russians, Germans, French
                  -[Napoleon, King of France]Napoleon [Bonaparte]
                       -Strategy
                       -Battle of the nations
                             -Cavalry
                       -Defeat of allies
                             -Austrians, Prussians, English
                       -Waterloo
                             -Mistakes
                  -Football
                  -Value
      -Counterattacks
            -B3 Area
            -Demilitarized Zone [DMZ]
            -Eighteenth parallel
      -William P. Rogers
            -Press conference
-State Department
-South Vietnam
      -Control of population
            -Amount
-Public opinion
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     -Rockefeller's opinion
          -Support for the President
-North Vietnamese offensive
     -Stakes for US
          -Conduct of foreign policy
                 -Edmund S. Muskie's and George S. Mcgovern's charges
                 -Hubert H. Humphrey
          -Consequences of defeat
     -Countermeasures
          -Initiative from White House
          -Pentagon
                 -Inaction
                       -Tet offensive
                 -Surface to Air Missiles [SAMs]
                 -Sorties
                 -Air strikes
     -South Vietnam
          -Government
          -Problem areas
          -Joseph Alsop's comments about North Vietnamese Army
     -Countermeasures
          -Soviets
          -Haiphong
                 -Bombing
                       -Extent
                       -Docks
                       -Ships
                 -Mining
                       -Problems
          -Types
                 -Bombing
          -Eighteenth parallel
                 -Bombing in the North
-Soviets
     -Reconnaissance
     -Haiphong
          -Bombing
-North Vietnamese offensive
     -DMZ
          -Crossing violation
     -US response
          -Bombing in the North
          -Intensity
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          -Haiphong
               -Docks
               -Domestic Reaction
               -People's Republic of China [PRC] and Soviet Union Reactions
               -Ships in harbor
               -Preparation for assault
                     -State Department
          -US measures
               -Spokesmen for the President
                     -Melvin R. Laird
                     -Rogers
                           -Announcements
                                -Bangladesh
     -Rogers
          -Retention in office
               -Timing

1972 campaign
     -Rogers
          -Role
     -Laird
          -Speeches

Vietnam
     -Rogers
          -Moscow summit
          -Trip to Europe
          -News reports
          -Moscow summit
                -Poland
     -North Vietnamese offensive
          -US responses
                -PRC and Soviet Union Reactions
          -Meeting in Paris
                -US refusal

US foreign policy
     -Kissinger's theoretical memoirs
          -Major decisions
                -Cambodia invasion
                -Nuclear war
                -April 1972 offensive
                      -Relation to election
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                              -North Vietnam
                                   -Chou En-Lai's advice

    Vietnam
         -North Vietnamese offensive
              -B-52 strikes
                   -DMZ
                   -Orders
                   -Preparations
                         -SAMs
                   -Targets
                         -Vinh
                   -Opportunities
                   -Significance
              -US bombing
                   -Justification
                   -North Vietnamese mistakes
                         -Kontum
                   -DMZ
              -North Vietnamese intentions
                   -Alsop's analysis
                         -John Vann
                                -North Vietnamese demoralization

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 17s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

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    The President's National Catholic Educational Association [NCEA] speech
         -Quote
              -H[erbert] G. Wells
              -Educated elite
                     -Bellicosity

    Vietnam
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           -Weather
                 -Clearance
           -Air strikes
                 -North of the DMZ
                 -Intensity
                 -Target areas
                 -Weather
                       -Report

Alexander P. Butterfield entered at an unknown time after 3:45 pm.

     The President's schedule

Butterfield left at an unknown time before 4:13 pm.

     Vietnam
          -Weather
                -Report
                      -Source
          -Abrams
                -Conversation with Adm.Thomas H. Moorer
                -Caution
                -Replacement
                -Health
          -Air strikes
                -Proposals
                      -Moorer
                      -Richard M. Helms
                           -Mining

John N. Mitchell and H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at 4:13 pm.

     Greetings

     Kissinger's travels
          -Soviet Union
          -Mexico

     [David] Kenneth Rush

Butterfield entered at 4:13 pm.

     John D. Ehrlichman
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             -Delivery of unknown article

Butterfield left at 4:13 pm.

     Laird
             -Rush
                  -David Packard

     Mitchell's schedule

Kissinger left at 4:13 pm.

             -International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT]
             -Key Biscayne
                   -Swimming Pool
                         -Charles G. (”Bebe”) Rebozo
                   -White House Staff
                   -Campaign
                   -Golf
                   -Fishing
                   -Boating
                   -Dinner


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 16s ]


Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 4:13 pm.

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 4:50 pm.


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5

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     Vietnam
          -Weather
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                -Bombing
                -Problems
                     -Air Force
                -World War II bombing runs
                     -Bad weather
                -Navy pilots
                -Favorable conditions
                -Bravery of pilots
                     -Prisoners of War [POWs]

     ITT case
          -1972 campaign
               -Disposal of case
               -Issue in election
               -Republican boycott of investigative committees
                     -Charge of harassment
               -Confusion of issue
                     -Newspaper reporting

Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 4:13 pm.

          -Mitchell

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 4:50 pm.

          -Vance Hartke


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
[Privacy]
[Duration: 5s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7

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               -Media representation
               -Conflicts with other Democrats
          -Susan Lichtman
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     -Press conference
           -Location
                -Law office
                -Link to Democrats
                -News reports
-Harold S. Geneen
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 5m 35s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8

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                       -ITT case
                            -Admission of guilt


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 9
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 5m 14s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 9

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             -San Diego
                  -ITT contribution
                       -Amount
                             -Herman [first name or surname unknown]
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 10
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 19m 19s ]


Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 4:13 pm.

Bull left at an unknown time before 4:50 pm.


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 10

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Charles Lucet and Kissinger entered at 4:50 pm. The White House photographer was present at
the beginning of the meeting.

     Greetings

     Ambassadors
         -Lucet's departure

Mitchell and Haldeman left at 4:50 pm.

     Photographs
          -Arrangements

     Ambassadors
         -Lucet
              -Stay in US
              -New post
                    -Italy
                           -Importance
                           -Number of political parties

     Italy
             -Proliferation of parties
                   -The President's 1969 trip
                   -Compared with France
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                 -Constitution
                        -Gen. Charles A. J. M. DeGaulle
     -Current political issues
           -Need for a strong President
     -Manlio Brosio
     -Political Parties
     -Brosio
     -Giuseppe Saragat
     -Lucet's new position
     -Unknown Italian Prime Minister
     -Rome
           -Beauty

US-France relations
    -Assessment
          -Stabilization
    -De Gaulle
    -Georges J. R. Pompidou
          -Relations with US
    -De Gaulle
          -Meeting with the President in 1969
                -Intended trip to the US
          -Funeral
                -The President's attendance
                      -Cathedral
                      -Impressions
                -The President's trip to France

The President’s schedule
     -Trip to the People’s Republic of China [PRC]
     -Forthcoming trip to the Soviet Union

Vietnam
     -US actions

US foreign policy
     -Soviet trip
          -Opportunities for negotiations
          -Rogers’s trip
                 -Europe
          -Preparations
          -Rogers’s trip
                 -Brussels
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           -Kissinger's trips
                -Japan
                -Rome
                      -Visit with Giovanni Battista Motini [Pope Paul VI]
           -US and French cooperation

     World War I
         -Sacrifices
               -France
               -Germany
               -Great Britain
         -Issues
               -Absence
               -Alsace-Lorraine
         -Guns Of August
         -Mobilization
               -Serbia
                     -Assassination of Archduke Francis Ferdinand
                          -Initial reactions
                     -Austrian ultimatums

     Ambassadors
         -Cooperation between Lucet and Graham Martin
              -Italy
                     -Current situation
                          -Lack of leadership
                          -Possible coup

     Presidential gifts
          -Ash trays
                -Presidential seal
          -Photographs

     The President’s forthcoming trip to the Soviet Union
          -Teheran
          -Europe
          -Rogers's trip
                -North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
          -Invitations to the President


Lucet and Kissinger left at 5:06 pm.
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