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I don't see any missiles, though.

There's a heavy...

Here's where I sit when I'm in the prison when I have the...

It's the state I'm in.

I know.

You know the approach?

I'll turn it off, yeah?

You should put the sound box in the corner.

Let me read it.

Have a look, I'll teach you.

What's the call?

Are you serious?

The Boolean is pretty good.

It is good.

I know, I don't want you to say anything.

Boolean.

I'm going to leave you all to Dr. Sanchez.

I have to go.

Do you have a moment of division tomorrow?

No, I have to go.

I have to go.

But why don't we start by scheduling the situations and where it stands, Bob?

Okay, I think what I... Dave has spent a lot of time with Julie over the last few weeks and some of Patricia in the last few days getting some of these things by now.

I think we're in basically good shape on it, 90% of it.

But we want to do it within the limits of what we can do.

And we have a question of what, if anything, Ed is able to do and wants to do that could be covered, if anything.

At this point, I don't believe we've got any problems doing it.

OK?

I think we're up to date as far as both the ground schedule and .

I don't know if you want to review, Mr. Chairman, any of the

what they've done, they've, I think, covered more ground than anybody would have realized, isn't it?

And we have... Now, your guy misses his next schedule, too.

So, how do you work on that?

No.

And that, there's a problem area there, because it's none of our business, really, and it's not considered to be, and, uh... Julie, did you talk to me before we had to re-work out about that ABC show, on offer?

Um, I thought it was, uh, did Connie get out to you?

No.

We haven't heard back on it.

Is that supposed to be the exception?

Well, to her, she was going to ask you some questions about it.

Like, if we could review the film and see if there were enough commentary for Mother to give us, that would be the only consideration.

Is this for the tour of the White House?

No, this is for the China.

Ah.

This would be to do a, using the China film, and then have your mother do a voiceover and make a decision on it.

Fairly so.

I think we're probably too late now.

Looks like we have to make it actually

You put it off on Friday.

Why didn't you know the day?

You called the day, why didn't you?

And she doesn't, she's not.

And if you called, Connie, did you ask about the situation for us?

I called over here to find out.

We've had no answer back over here.

I talked to her on Monday, and after we called you about it, she didn't do that.

I should find out about it now before she leaves.

We will.

I'll go over and ask her.

Or something.

Maybe we should call her?

That's the one.

That's true.

You get the next one for Julie, please.

That's the next one for Julie.

And she probably has some questions.

If she has questions, we should be quick.

That's the next thing.

Who do we put to go to work on it?

Is Al Snyder involved?

He could get us into it.

I mean, if he wants to carry it from there or something.

She wants somebody who's going to help her write good remarks to say as she, for overboard things.

Do you think those taxpayers could do better?

It's clever.

South Africa, Canada.

Not a camp.

Well, last night we were over here in the office and Daddy wanted to know if you thought you might do that half-hour special on China.

Well, but... Um, what...

But if we have somebody good who reviewed the film and then wrote a script, don't you think it'd be possible?

Well, we could get good people assigned to us to, you know, a Bill Sapphire or something.

And, you know, I was thinking that Tess McCreary might be a good person to bring in to help work on it.

I don't think there'd be that much to it, since it's only a half hour.

And just to kind of wrap up what happened, there wouldn't be anything new.

And there wouldn't be any filming of you, just because it would take a day to do the voice-over.

It would probably have to take more.

If they came up with a prepared moment.

Sure.

Well then, would you like to get out of here?

Yeah?

Would you like the idea of Dr. Kerr being involved and you just could?

I think he's a good person.

So I'm on the trip.

Yeah, that makes sense.

Even though... Well... Kerr didn't go on the trip.

Well, if we can think of a way to get it to use that's not much work for you,

then would you do it?

If we can, all right.

All right.

If we can work it out.

Okay, we'll think about it.

Okay, bye.

She said she'd do it.

She's trying to rest and she thinks it's good.

Go forward and get some smart call to work on it, right?

There's no problem.

Now you, the only people you possibly have to do script, you can't even do some.

And that's a special art.

and query types and do something else that doesn't necessarily have to be somebody else.

If you watch the footage, you can do the script without any men in the chat.

That's it.

I have some ideas.

Whoever has it, I have them.

Why, sure, the ABC people will do the script and do it, won't they?

Yeah, well, yeah, but you don't want them to do her script.

You know what I mean?

Because there's a lot of points we can get over that you can't get agency or television consultants.

I think mother has a good point.

Someone who went on the trip.

Is there anybody who went on the trip?

How about one of our friends who's a writer?

No, they're not close enough.

You don't really need a writer on it because what you need is the points to make.

I know.

She's wanting to do it, but she says she's getting ready for camp.

I think Pat would be a good one to look over the phone and pick up talking points.

Yeah.

Because he was there.

It's more vivid to him.

Yes, and he would be very good.

And then she could add a third role to the story.

You know, to make it more in style.

How did she spark in the prairie?

Because actually, in the prairie, it would be awfully good.

She thinks it's great.

She's got a couple of points we want to get across.

Yeah.

The kind of points about...

I think we should bring... First of all, in the prairie, you'd come in to be sort of a man in charge, because she works well with him.

Okay.

Good.

That's all.

That's part of it.

The main thing is to make some, is to be sure that we've got this thing worked out in terms of where we go.

You know, we've got...

sort of the, I don't know if you want to look at it or not, but the run down of the two of these guys is just incredible.

And then the, I mean, yeah, that's what we did with our nutritionist.

And just the rest.

We end up, maybe just right here.

For instance, Julie has already done on television, and some kind of television appearance.

She's done Cleveland, Akron, Knoxville, Grand Rapids, Toledo, Atlanta, Indianapolis, Memphis, Nashville, San Antonio, Pittsburgh, St. Louis, and Charlotte.

Very good.

And then we've got her... Now, in addition to that, she did the Christmas special in Atlanta, Georgia, two national track shows.

Then she's done New York, Springfield, New Jersey, Southern Florida, L.A., and Jacksonville, on things that have got regional media coverage that haven't been televised.

That covers five of the top 10 markets and eight of the top 20 that she's done now, plus some others.

And working against the idea of the 40 top media areas, with the idea that if you go into an area that is a prime television source, it's better than going into an area that isn't, because you get on the television and reach the surrounding areas.

And the projected schedule for Julie now takes her into New Orleans, Baltimore, Houston, Chicago, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Columbus, Detroit, Cincinnati, Louisville, York, Lancaster, Philadelphia, Indianapolis, Denver, New York, Dayton, and Dallas.

That's April May and June.

Plus, on national television, the Masters Golf Tournament, the Apollo 16 launch, the Mike Douglas show, and she's doing an educational spot for HEW that will run everywhere in the country for six months, the public service spot.

So you've got, the point is we,

We've got a plan that lays out a lot of work, but also coverage in the places where we need it and in the places where the coverage generates coverage.

And each of those is tied to the start of the program, but the knowledge is the most important thing.

And you go ahead and do other things for the purpose of getting on television.

On the other hand, you don't figure that it's the talk shows that have the biggest deal, because they have big audiences.

But they have bigger audiences, and then you just talk to a thousand or two in a column.

Any talk show will have more than the biggest round, possibly, possibly.

And then my question, could this indicate a TV type thing?

The story broadcasting does it for people.

It runs on all the stories as well.

It's going to be very .

The Mike Douglas thing gets you .

That kind of thing, where you get on more than the local thing.

But we should never downgrade the local television.

You get on a half hour show or a talk show in any one of those cities that you're reaching.

Oh, many more than that.

Really?

Yeah.

It's smaller, but it's 100,000.

But I, as an investor, come to a bigger understanding than you will ever imagine.

And I think they ought to add in that thing there.

I think you ought to add some emphasis in Northern California.

Markets like outside of San Francisco and outside of San Francisco, Sacramento Stockton, Davis Field, they all have their shows.

And we need to get into that area.

And also in Southern California.

Where are the L.A. Air Force?

San Bernardino.

San Bernardino, maybe Riverside.

San Bernardino, Riverside.

You've got television now.

San Bernardino, Riverside.

They have separate television.

Baker's Field, which has served Baker's Field all the way up to Dallas.

We can do better.

Because the coverage of my LA visit was OK.

But it's such a blasé city that if we go to those Baker's Fields, we'll get five minutes.

Also, I think it's very important to examine the New York market more carefully.

in terms of what anything you could get outside of New York City.

I don't know whether you could get anything in Westchester or Nashville County or Suffolk.

Probably not.

That's all New York.

But you could share everything up the line.

Personal appearance, you can't know if you get good money.

Personal appearance outside of New York City, you're excellent.

But then I would go ahead and pick up such things as the Syracuse, Rochester, Elmira.

Those are very good markets in New York State.

Well, obviously Buffalo.

Husha is now scheduled into Westchester and Southwell County.

But that's for personal.

Yes, sir, that's right.

I'm just trying to think about something.

The talk shows are an awful lot of work, and I'm not sure that

Maybe the news is better than the culture.

You know, if you can make it.

You don't know what you've got on the news, but let's figure it out.

I do say this, though.

In an area, you've got one of these women talk show, morning show, like that's what I'm sure it's taken.

Because that's a way to get through quite a large market.

And they like to have people on.

Don't you think so?

Absolutely.

Some of those.

Do we have any kind of bandwidth listening of what talk shows are available on that program?

What about the three big ones like Cabinets?

We wouldn't consider Cabinets.

No, I wouldn't consider Cabinets.

But what about...

I wouldn't consider Cabinets.

What did you do on Nutritionist when I was there?

Griffin.

He's on here.

He's on.

He's probably at the theater audience and done a show.

Yeah.

Of course they have it.

I don't believe any of those are...

We were trying to get Cabot during the campaign, and he was a good one.

He was before he made good, though.

He was a terrible guy.

He has become, at least.

They can't lose on us.

We can't lose with Tricia, too.

Well, it depends on your live audience.

We've been in stacked audiences.

It's going to make them look good.

And we have a resume because everybody else is using it, aren't they?

We're entitled to a lot of equal time.

Kevin likes to do issue-oriented interviews now.

And what I mean is he wants somebody to come in and talk about the supply of the initials.

And if we could go on his show talking about some great thing in the administration that we recently had done, do you know what I mean?

We could think of something.

Some big event would be great.

The signing of the Cancer Act would have been a perfect time to go on this show.

Talking about being there.

Who got cancer?

Just one of us did.

I got cancer.

Hurry, hurry, hurry.

Anyway, that would be a great show.

Let's think about one other thing.

What about radio talk shows?

You know, I mean, let me put it this way.

It's all relative in terms, first of all, but if you're going to rate this, a radio talk show is worth ten times getting a UPI teacher by Hall and Thomas.

But, Daddy, look, every place you go, just about, except maybe New York City and Los Angeles, Washington, D.C. No, the thing is, you can get on TV.

Isn't that right?

Don't you find that true?

You're always on the news.

You can get on TV.

See, they've got the TV talk shows that they have an easy point on that girls can go on.

If you could go on for an hour on one of those talk shows that they call them on, it'd be very easy for you because it's

We've been avoiding the call-in show.

I don't like the call-in shows because of the questions.

Now, Kirk has been on Kwame's show, so you should have seen it for us.

What's wrong with Kwame's show?

It's not that it can't be that way.

There's a 10-second delay.

It's deleted.

I think there'd be further delay.

Also, that's...

That makes a lot of points, though.

Why don't you just experiment and try that talk show?

It's worked pretty well with Lime Race.

Yeah, the crew will be picking on three or four of our people.

Yeah, that's right.

It's been two and a half hours on the phone.

In fact, I have an idea.

What do you think?

I have an idea.

Like, when I went down to the SAA, the Former Home Administration, Bob Brown was with me.

Now, this is the kind of thing where you might want to have Bob Brown on the call-in show with me so that if you get any...

If you're in town for a specific event, would it be a natural for him to be along?

Is it his appeal?

And it's too useless a question in case you go... Yeah, all I'm saying is it could be anybody on the staff that could fit into the event.

Unless you have the...

Well, I do want to see what Krogland drugs are.

Yeah, we have an expert on drugs.

You know, another thing, if you want to go on a drug kit, you could take, well, Charlie, you could take, not Krogland, but the other fellow.

Jackie.

Oh, Jackie is a genius, you know, in quick and articulate dress, or the column.

Ambrose.

So you've got a cop, you've got a guy that takes care of when they get cured, you know, a psychiatrist.

Ambrose is the...

Miles Ambrose is the new enforcer.

But the more you can get on drugs, drugs is a good subject for us.

But we haven't had anything with drugs.

A lady, anything you can get on a drug kit is good.

We have a medical department in about two or three weeks.

Of course we've been doing a lot.

But we are not well known for that.

We get no credit for it.

I think it's good.

I don't think I have anything on drugs, though.

Well, Trish, that's what I'm asking.

Do you want us to get a reading book for you about your...

He has one.

He's got one?

Mm-hmm.

And then who does the, who's going to work on the, that is, who do we assign to work on the, that is, on the, you know, for each stop?

Is that Judge Andrews?

I mean, who does the remarks for each place?

But generally we go to the substantive person who in turn ends up working with John Andrews.

Yeah.

Well, I think we've got a whole host of writers over there.

Ray's got eight in the office now, right?

I would like to make one suggestion on writing.

Do you know?

I'd just like to have mine earlier, because I'm not a speaker.

I'm not a natural speaker.

But you'd like them earlier.

I certainly would.

I'd like to.

I think what you're just saying is that John Andrews is so valuable on your staff that he's used for your things, and that he can't spend enough time on our things.

Well, believe me, we've got it in him.

We've got to get a couple of guys to tell them, as I've told you about, I consider it equally important to any of you.

I took time off at Camp David, for example, and dedicated a couple of memorandums for Mrs. Nixon yesterday to California.

Well, there's no genius in the darn things, but I took the time because it's hard to work for her or for anybody.

But if we had somebody that really felt that that was the biggest thing in his life,

they would do better, you know what I mean?

I really think they're about to get the impression, if somebody works for me, that, oh, gee, this big deal, do any of this come up?

They've got to realize that when they do something, for any of you who go out, that that's on the line.

Absolutely.

And I just think, I want you to talk to Ray and see what we can do with regard to that.

That would be good.

We're looking for someone.

He's got this new guy, he's apparently a very bright person, so I'll put him on that.

And don't let him feel on this thing.

Yeah, but he's very fast.

He's fast, too.

And...

You know, and another thing, here is a place where I think you could use as an outsider a, I mean, you've got to get imagination into it, get warmth into it, get anecdote into it.

That's the thing, the things that I've seen that they've prepared for you, Julie, that they've prepared for me.

It's very good long on facts and what have you.

Very, very short.

Anything you're saying, any feeling about it, imagination, man, go through the rest.

Tell them to read a book.

Just, you know, just every night.

Now, they're young enough to stay up every night and read a book.

And now they're going to get something out of a book.

This is really the truth.

I don't mean a quote.

I don't mean a quote where you say, well, I asked.

That isn't the way to do it.

But there are ways to do it.

There are

But I do think that there is a great tendency, I think it's probably the bane of modern education.

We have very, very bright people in terms of writing.

The writing is so dull.

So dull because there's no warmth in it.

And the reason there's no warmth in it is that perhaps

They're not supposed to have each other.

It's not the thing.

It's not in.

Those are the people who have their audience.

You've got to tell those stories.

Dad, the one thing we should maybe think about, talk about just for a minute, is all the shows and all the interviewers, they all want to know about, they all assume that you are meeting with young people constantly and identifying things.

No, no, no, no.

That Trish and I are.

Oh, yeah.

And this is our main purpose.

So that's all right.

But maybe we should have a few more events with young people.

All right.

It's possible.

But our future home base is strong.

I think they are right about that.

I think that identification, my identification with them, is for the purpose of their benefit.

But why do we not have some identification with them?

If you could ask, for example, if you could bring in some people, I mean, you know, you have to have a parallel.

We had, for example, we got that group that met out there, you know, out in the mountains, you know.

Yeah.

Well, they were a little nutty, but bring in a few of them.

I don't see where, like the time at Washington and... All right, why don't you set up a meeting for some groups out there.

There are lots of very fine, remember I marked a new summary several months ago.

that group in Orange County, and here was a guy with long hair and a rest who was out tutoring somebody.

Now, that's the kind of people we ought to recognize when we go out.

And there must be ways to do that.

If you can do it, it gets harder to try and figure out how.

Well, you've got someone like that that's doing a project where they can get half a dozen of the people that are doing that.

And you can say you were interested because you had questions around the country about this, and you'd like to sit down with him and find out what it is that they're doing, and you kind of sit there and say, that would be good.

And then you use that as talking points when you get on television or something.

It could be very effective.

And it made the point that the president is asking you to be his eyes and ears in finding out what these

What's going on?

The problem is you've got to get out of the damn, you know, all the new colleges, Ivy League colleges and all that.

That's right.

Even though it's blue-collar, do you carry what you can reach?

The junior colleges aren't high schools.

Did you know that all high schools are high schools?

We have a high school seniority team.

We were 17, most of us, I think.

But half of them are 18-nighters.

That's right.

Because of the way they pray and when your birthday is.

Well, God won't.

And the junior colleges are a rather wide-open place for that sort of thing.

And they'd like to see somebody.

But also, it's the Texas Christian and the young and the...

The purpose of doing that kind of event, for example, is to do the event, which sometimes they'll cover it as a news event.

And then of course you have a perfect, you know,

which is the main purpose if you're going to town.

But the event itself is useful.

And also, you'll find it interesting.

Another thing about that, I mean, I don't want to downgrade events and supports, but what gives you talking points and anecdotes is doing things, that's right, not talking.

So go to events and events.

You've got to do things.

Go and attend.

And somebody talks to you.

For example, I take lots of organic notes right out of receiving lines.

Or people that come in here in the office.

Sometimes they say something very smart or something dumb.

One of the things you can do in a college thing, or with youth in another thing, is you don't have to be with a large group in order to have a large event.

Invite the six of them and then talk about it.

Have a rap session.

Yes, yes, that's better.

What else for now?

You can have a rap session.

Now, Billy Graham, my host, is a

curious way, use that technique.

He always talks to me, you know, he's talking to the young crowd.

I sat down and I, what do they call it, they rap with this or that, this and that, and he does it, I know that.

Of course, I can imagine there isn't much communication.

On the other hand, he's got great stories out of it, you know.

Great stories, and it gets to the end, but they make it in his truly care.

Let me tell you a couple other things.

See, in terms of caring,

Don't fall into the usual traps now.

Let me tell you where the votes are.

The votes, as far as we are concerned, are the ones we are going after.

In other words, that obviously is the case.

And the people who aren't going to be what would lead to our direction, these are the middle class, upper middle class, white collar, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

Let me start another, where the votes are not, and events not to do.

Jewish groups, don't bother.

Don't bother because we're handling them in other ways.

And there is nothing to be gained from a vote standpoint of going to Jewish groups.

Negro groups, you should do them for another reason.

not because there are many votes there you're not going to get any real votes but because it's very important to be the king we care see what i mean and so you must not go but here is the place that we have always overlooked well they're welcome to hold arms we've got anymore that's capital

And by Catholic groups, that means Poles, and Tetons, and Czechoslovakians, and Syrians, and Mexicans, and Mexicans, and others.

You see, they're here right on the global territory, and that group of which votes about 80% or 75% are registered Democrats.

can be for us for reasons.

I mean, they can come over.

The blacks can't.

That's a group.

We'll get Bob Brown and his group and Jesse Owens and, you know, the Jewish people can't because, you see, it's a tradition.

Ever since Roosevelt, they've been on the other side, except for some of the very well-known ones who will come for reasons that have nothing to do with philosophy.

But, boy, there have been many points among the others.

Now, let me give you an example.

This is a very closely held thing, but I'll tell you this.

After we've finished Russia, we're going to Iran.

And then after that, we probably are going to Warsaw for a night, for a day.

Now, the Warsaw thing will be announced within a few more days, if you understand.

And this is something.

Now, that opens up the Polish thing.

Why?

Now, with Muskie out of the race, which appears quite likely, he may come back.

But in any event, the Polish people are wide open for what we have to say to them.

You see, basically, because they do not like, they do not like to be pushed around by the blacks in their neighborhood, in the right-match room, and they run this way.

The same with the Italians and all that sort of thing.

It isn't that you go in on a racist basis, but you go in and impede them to their profit in their neighborhood.

You know, they want to, they say, my God, I spent all my money, you know, to save my money to buy my little house so my kid could go to that good school, and then they bust a little guy and they push him across there.

That's what they're mad to do.

That's true.

But we go in for other reasons.

If I go to Warsaw, for example, after that, be sure that you have all members of the family scheduled just by accident to go to Ottawa, Hartford, Connecticut, Chicago, Detroit.

and obviously for the Belgian.

The Polish vote is enormously important.

Now, the Italian one is, of course, the biggest enemy.

And there, you know, that's one of the reasons why, in spite of the fact that your mother-in-law will probably have a heart attack when she finds it out, but we're going to invite Frank Sinatra to give it to you.

Did that work out?

Oh, no, it didn't work out.

I told you he would come.

I know.

Well, he's right.

And he's great.

And maybe he's mad.

And certainly he's...

I don't think that's Martin Luther King.

Let me tell you this.

Martin Luther King was not particularly an example of moral rectitude, but he was theirs.

And that's Frank Sinatra with the Italians.

It's a dangerous thing.

Is that right?

Oh, he's the biggest.

Who's bigger than Frank Sinatra?

He's rich.

He's broken the integrity they love.

But aren't you hurting, what I'm saying is aren't you hurting other, your other friends by having him and such a huge invite to the state dinner, to have him to start the state dinner evening?

They're never making it to the city, they're always fine.

Okay.

Nobody's, nobody is against it.

If you had, what they wanted to do was do an evening

What we are trying to do is to have him as an entertainer for the Organization of American States staff.

The Latin there.

Well, he is a Latin.

I want, in terms of scheduling, to be sure they go in.

Polish groups and the rest.

And those things are... Milwaukee is another place.

because essentially the land of Wisconsin, which is always supposed to be, it's those pearls poles.

Now in 1959, I went to Warsaw, and I was welcome, and I came back.

And we got a tremendous welcome in the Polish states.

If it hadn't been that Kennedy was the candidate, we would have swept it.

But you've got an interesting situation to see.

If Muskie is not the candidate, and if Teddy does not become the candidate, there's no capital on the other side.

Well, very interesting point.

And there are voters in the Navy for us.

But getting back to the states again, also, I don't think you should overlook going into a few of those good small states.

We have that in mind.

i know that we have said that that would be done by others but i'm trying to think that it's really a question of when they concentrate on the big states and when they might go to one of those we're trying to cover these big states now when you're not yeah if you're going to be covering

or big states later, and then they will be able to get more attention and do more in the smaller states.

You aren't going to get the media, the national media coverage in the same way.

In other words, you have ended small states later.

Yeah.

And because of the draws in the small states.

A huge draw, true, but the point is, how is that going to affect regional coverage?

the media centers where what they do reaches a large area.

You go in and on television and

Miami, South Dakota, you reach practically nobody.

If you go into the television in Chicago, you reach billions.

Because it covers way beyond Chicago.

And what we've been after is trying to hit the media centers, the TV centers,

where a shot on top, it's just as much work to do the half hour and a half minute as it is in Chicago.

You don't come in October and visit a small state with a can of lunch or a pretty potential visit.

That's right.

And on those, I want those small states to recover them because they deserve to.

And we are going to do some.

I'm covering the pie.

One thing I do want you to do, I don't know whether it's worked out, is Margaret spent any follow-up data?

I want to go to Maine.

That's independent of you.

Finally, you go up there.

Good.

Well, that's a good idea.

I'd like to go to Maine.

I love Auburn, too.

Yeah.

Well, go to Auburn.

I do.

But nevertheless, it's interesting, though, because, again, you're looking at the muskie thing.

But the muskie thing is out in Maine.

It's wonderful.

I mean, it's an enormous state.

And also, that gets you all to New England, except Massachusetts.

The governor there is going to become active in 10 minutes.

He doesn't want us to give it up.

I don't do anything in Massachusetts.

Massachusetts might be starting to swing.

Connecticut has.

That's the thing that indicates to you that possibly some of those states are not gone completely, is the Connecticut stuff.

We've been pulling Connecticut way over.

The other interesting thing is Michigan, which is... Is that right?

Yeah.

Massachusetts is...

And we are, we hardly can't believe the polls, but we've had, who takes us back to the back of the polls?

And two different ones.

Check it out.

Out there again, I think you've got a curious thing.

We're in the forest there, basically.

We think of Connecticut as being liberal, better than the community of New York.

But Connecticut, again, is 50% Catholic.

blue collar, et cetera, you know, and a lot of that.

It's the initial truth.

But again, there's also a bridge part.

That's the amazing thing about Massachusetts, Stanford.

Massachusetts, we think of it, oh my gosh, the state is 1% black.

Yeah.

It's all Catholic and all black senators.

And I could maintain a different kind of .

He was counting the same way New York City is.

That's right.

Counting machines.

That's right.

Well, I think the Northern Californian is good.

I also think any kind of things that have sort of a warm, emotional tie, .

For example, we've done that.

I bet he has, generally speaking.

Yes.

Now, a political thing I want to mention.

You raised the question of fundraisers.

The rule of law, I think, should be this.

First, let me say, you will do nothing for any individual candidate.

That means you will not attend his fundraising dinner, and you will not attend a rally for a candidate for the Senate, the House, or a ambassador.

You see?

That's a very good thing.

You're doing that because of Maine and not because of her.

And because she's a woman, it has other ramifications in it.

Now, coming to the other, you see, the reason we've got to do that is that the individual candidates for governor and the Senate and the rest will just be driving us nuts to have every of us waste our time coming to raise their money, so we're not going to do it.

We did that in September.

That was their view.

This is our view.

Now, the other thing, however, is something else.

Let us suppose that the New York dinner, the big one in the Walmart, wants somebody there.

Well, basically, that's far more than a hundred dollar contribution, a thousand dollar contribution.

That's basically the New York Republican establishment.

And so an appearance that that would be worthwhile, that sort of appeal would be done.

So that's the kind of what kind you were asking about.

But those you would do, in other words, the political events that you should do should be only events that are very broad in character, broad party events.

But generally speaking, avoid them like the plague.

And another thing, can I suggest the

Women's groups would be very good for these.

Have you run over such things as soroptimists in the business women's professional women's clubs?

Yeah, business women's clubs.

Now, they're a great number.

And every little community's got a garden club.

And you can go talk about or environment or something.

But I don't know.

I do think you could examine a bit of having women's identification there.

Rather than going for the women's thing, go for the kind of women.

who make up most of the women who are, you know, are not women.

So I'm not necessarily against it, but basically they're homemakers and all the rest, and they belong to a club.

The, uh, one of the proposals for you in Denver is the General Federation of Women of America, which is the largest volunteer organization.

Yeah, it's 15 million.

15 million.

I did it years and years ago, and actually,

That would be a good thing.

We make a note of that.

That I didn't mention.

I've done it twice.

That'd be good to mention in my speaking remarks.

I've done it in Constitution Hall.

That's important that he carried it out in that way.

Yeah.

But there, Rose will have that.

That's what I would like to know.

Asheville and Constitution Hall.

Good.

It's going to be great.

But it is not a very close .

I think this, if I can just say, I guess one thing with regard to what meetings you do.

Go to meetings where people will appreciate the fact that you came.

Now this is going to sound pretty bad, but it's so true.

The worst meetings we have at the White House, the worst dinners we have at the White House, and the worst things that I have attended are the businessmen.

The businessmen, and generally your fundraising, your contributors, and the rest, are so, you know...

They've seen everything.

Well, they think they're not supposed to react.

So the thing to do is to go to people to whom it's a big thrill.

I mean, and the ex-servant, too.

And then your coverage is good because the friends have to write the piece.

Right.

Yeah, that's right.

And also, I would use, one thing that both of you understand, one thing your mommy doesn't, that we can't get her to change.

But remember that all these affairs, you don't have to shake hands with every last one.

Just touch the fence.

That's all.

Just touch it a couple times.

I mean, you'd hate to leave that poor kid, that last autograph, whatever it is.

But can you do that now?

My dad is doing that, too.

Yeah, I know.

I know.

You all do it well.

But what I mean is, they can wear the outfit.

Those people can wear the outfit.

If you're there.

And also, you just do not get caught in that.

Let them have a little entrance worked out, and you come in.

But if that was back on TV, to be seen with people around.

I agree.

Not so formal.

Well, I hope you made that point for me.

Generally, even when I was not on the CIO, the reason I walked into that crowd after was because I figured it would irritate me.

I did.

But also, it was on television.

You could always, after a speech or something, break your pattern and walk right into the crowd.

The main thing is to walk away from it.

Don't do the thing that's expected.

The unexpected stuff.

The things that...

I just can't...

Especially with you.

because they will pick it up and that's what the president does a lot of is to spot the possibility in the crowd where you can and go for that the little kid or the kid that's crying or the one that has a special kind of sign he's done enough or the the old lady who was particularly anxious or shouted i knew your grandmother or something right you pick up that like you did with the the old colored man at the uh

And over there at the hill, remember when I was crying?

You get a sensational picture if you get the things like that.

One thing I should tell you, you should, as a matter of heart, of course, go up.

And I always do for people with wheelchairs and people who have these terribly personal diseases and so forth.

But remember that there should not be pictures of that.

Well, it's hard to keep going.

Oh, I know.

Because it's first aid.

Well, let me say to the member that they won't take or use it.

People do not like, unless the individual is like an amputee or something, but if it's somebody, you know, you don't understand why.

It's a bastard.

They don't want to put it on television.

But do it.

You should do it.

I think it's a devil I got it.

All the nice stuff is checking into a town that some policeman, for example, has been shot and dropping in and seeing him or somebody or his widow or something like that.

That's a good thing.

They can't do much about it.

The advancement's got to look for that kind of thing.

He's got to look for events of that sort or some young person.

That is a good thing.

Or some young person, not even that, but it's all kinds of things.

done something very fine.

Somebody's 100 years old.

Somebody's, you know.

There's the unique character in every guy.

In other words, the main thing is to show, if you ever get across, high style, of course, but compassion.

Understanding and intelligence about issues, yes, everybody's in that, but that you care about it.

The fact that you really care about it, you know, that you care about these people.

I can have a big head schedule too.

The head has got a letter from somebody and then you can, when you get to the top.

In fact, a good device once in a while is to go to that person's house.

Yeah.

If you get a letter, cut off your thing, go to their house and say you wanted it.

You've seen that letter that they've written your father.

Try something in the schedules of where they do drop by a house.

Get out of the energy for them in a very, in a very moderate height.

Used to do it as a .

We had a flag out.

It's a wonderful thing.

The people were sending the certificates.

You could take the certificates.

Yeah.

Also, let's get certificates.

Always give them a bundle of certificates they can hand out with these things.

I think it's important to see what kind of things you could do.

And I think the best thing, my view is,

First of all, I do think you're getting into the university area.

in the midwest the far west or well it's not just in the east too i mean i just i just wouldn't i believe it i believe it is uh that's not territory that we can make very much headway and i didn't know you'd never fight on their ground but well they're so small in numbers that they're interesting yeah but you're great you're great but i think too that i think i think the main thing i think david agrees with us too because he's done a lot of

You've got to get, we'd like to get you started on the television bit.

Because the television is the name of this game.

The only way to play that game is to do it.

Once you've done it, it's not easy.

It's always hard.

Do you agree, David?

There was an excellent advance job in 1971 when I went to South Carolina to reach for

It's really good for editors, local editors in a certain area of the lake.

I'm going to just walk in.

This is a sort of a center meeting place.

Editors run state high school editors, or?

Editors run smaller states.

That would really be effective.

In other words, they can have a view.

It's a smaller state, but it's cerebral.

So you work your way into the

on the editorial page and that sort of thing.

Build respectability for the candidate.

You build your own role up and all sorts of things.

It's a very effective touch at the end of the day.

Keep in mind that the smaller students

That would be great.

It might be effective, too, to try to involve you and Patricia.

Yeah.

Honestly, we're showing together.

Yeah.

We kind of play off each other.

And after you do two or three, then you start to feel a lot more comfortable yourself.

Yeah.

Well, I don't think we want to be young.

I think we want to split up and do things on our own.

Well, I was just thinking to start on that.

I think that they're better alone.

But that'd be my guess.

And to get the two together is a...

Why don't we try them alone?

Let me say one thing to be sure that we're going to have a massive impact.

One, which was Wallace, because he was unable to qualify there.

We had to find him.

His pass today was Arkansas.

I got it there.

Nobody goes to Arkansas.

And they didn't help him.

And the, so, but you've got...

At that stage, if you agree to be worked, people will appreciate it.

It's like Oklahoma used to be.

We go to Oklahoma.

We've been there a few times.

There's Arkansas.

Not only Arkansas, Tennessee.

There we go.

But also Louisiana, Mississippi.

Yes, sir.

It could be one.

Alabama.

If there is no Wallace Party, we'll win all of the South.

If there is, we'll win all of it.

Yes, sir.

They support us with culture.

Well, they do now.

Even Wallace and I don't know.

Depends on Louisiana, but the Republican did a 60% vote.

The only time it ever did was for Eisenhower.

Yeah, but that's because of the substantial capital vote.

When that year, we got a tremendous capital vote.

Remember?

Tremendous.

46% capital vote.

In the 60s, we got 40%.

Oh, me too.

The lowest, right?

The highest is 56, and the lowest is 60.

That's the thing, we've been consistent with the idea of working Captain Gerson somewhere in Louisiana for real opportunities.

Well, what I would do in Louisiana, too, would be to go in to an Iowa friend, Otto Tasman, for example, is a great friend of mine.

And he paid, and he's come to support us.

But in this, you go into that three-quarter area, which is very conservative, anyway, they go to the wall.

I mean, those people, the Mississippi people are all, of course, all the senators and congressmen and everybody else.

Yeah, they are.

Right.

They're all Democrats, but they're strong Republicans.

Well, they're very conservative.

And I'm not going to get into Mississippi, and other things that may intrigue me for other reasons.

Another reason for, let me say, for touching up all of the stuff is that it forces the Democrat either to go there or to admit he's writing it all off.

Now, that's another reason they're touching up just Massachusetts.

I mean, why just leave it?

If you leave it then, they say, well, nobody's going to go first.

It has a bad effect when the states are out.

It might wash off.

It might risk New Hampshire.

Probably not.

It wouldn't risk Vermont.

It certainly affects Maine.

It does affect Connecticut.

And it affects New York.

So Massachusetts, you have to do it.

It's better to lose it by 100,000 than by 400,000, which we've not done.

I think Massachusetts could turn.

I don't mean this time, but it's word drive.

Michigan is in St. Paul, Michigan affects Ohio, and Wisconsin.

Michigan looks at least, sort of, even.

It's not more than that even.

It's about even now.

The busing issue was just there.

The busing thing had turned in when he was way behind.

Now he's ahead.

We're selling a lot of cars.

Right.

We're saving a lot of the industry.

They still have that plan, but Michigan always has time.

I don't think that's what I'm getting at.

Well, the Northwest is revoked.

The geography showed up that it isn't really, I don't think it's worth there.

I don't think it's worth there anyway.

State of Washington?

Well, Washington or anything up in the corner.

Or Washington or I don't know.

Well, I know where you went.

And you should be able to win Montana, although it's always close.

But the Dakotas are worth touching up.

The situation in Oregon is a real question.

I really wonder if it's worth it.

What do you think?

The Democrats are going to be in there in a tremendous body.

I can let them waddle around until after the primary and have nobody in Oregon.

But I go after it because Oregon is going to be won.

Don't you agree, Captain?

But we won't get much attention in Oregon.

The State of Washington, Captain, it should be tried, isn't it?

Well, we need it.

Huh?

Well, it should be going down, you think?

I don't know.

I'm not so sure.

I don't think we need to.

Oregon is going to have such a messy primary.

Yep.

Everybody, everything is messy up.

Ah, I see.

We got it available to the girls right now.

To?

Inspector.

Go ahead.

Can I just bump in to do something?

Quiet there.

Yes.

You know, just to make it, if it could be done.

If one of them could take the, you know, that traditional California tour through the old country.

It's a beautiful tour.

It's worth seeing.

If another case, they might take a tour down through, you know, on the coast, you know.

The Red Mountain.

Yeah.

From Carmel, Alabama.

Carmel to the Paso Robles and so forth.

I mean, there's a way, and that has enormous effect on the rest of California.

The gold country is magnificent.

No people, just these little, little towns.

And it's a fascinating trip.

A fascinating trip.

You pop in and see, my God, those people would turn out, it would make quite a story.

You see, the main thing is to do it, not because the people receive it, but because what they write about it, what they say about it, what they show about it.

and that gold country thing wasn't like that i think you want to wait until after the primary i'll know but i think california has to be working in a variety of ways because it's an enormous complex state

i can look over those over here go ahead i was saying i think that there are two real good opportunities we find a very good event to handle to go into any given city but this is sometimes the most difficult thing to do to give them the credibility to go on the tv program i'm here because i'm doing abc right now we have to do a summary employment program which

which are providing some of the 650,000 jobs in all the cities of the country, in addition to your environmental awards program, will go into high schools and give presidential certificates for their environmental programs, which gets you into high school assembly type things.

We have hard news with that.

And then, of course, you slide it onto a TV show.

And we now have that whole program opening up to where we can pretty much assure every media market that you haven't been to, you can be to by convention time, the major media markets.

Because these mechanisms are available to us.

And we can choose, rather than waiting for the invitations to come in or calling people in ahead to come in with a good idea.

Right.

It's much better to agree to your invitation than to wait for one.

Oh, exactly.

Of course, one of the best things, though, is going to the 100th anniversary of town, city, school.

That is a big deal.

Boy, that thing in Birmingham was great, if you remember.

and Mojito and all the rest.

You pop into that place, people just love them.

They're all impressed.

This is the ambulance.

Well, there was one, for example, up in Massachusetts the other day.

They came and asked me to go to a little town.

And they were all wearing beards and all that.

And I could have, I would have gone.

I wish I could have.

It would have been great for one of you to go.

Fun to go to.

It's the best place to do it.

The purpose of the latter part, to concede none, is that if you concede one,

then allow your opponent to take it for granted that you keep him busy by conceding and you take that for granted for the obvious reason that that also keeps us a little busy it forces him to cut in when he shouldn't waste his time well the south is a great opportunity because if you force a candidate into the south never is boxed in by the people you can associate with which

That's right.

Which just tags his skin.

Let's get that up for a picture with Lester Maddox.

Yeah.

Arm.

Yeah.

Maddox is smart, Paul.

Yes, he is.

He's smart.

Well, thanks, Daniel.

I think we've got to start on what can be maybe almost as productive as getting the president out of this.

The effect you all have on the other thing that has been very helpful and can continue to be is where you can substitute for him on things that he used to do, but that he just can't keep doing to post your children.

I can't do those anymore.

Another nation association and all that.

I say that it will be very, very important to those people.

And it's a picture story, a picture, a cover picture on their magazine that goes to their seven million members.

I just go through those invitations and see if they're, whenever they're here in the White House, either one of you, you know, go over and, listen, do we do those in a natural place?

I was thinking, I was thinking, I really, really, you've got to go talk about this.

Absolutely.

You've not done that yet.

But you know, the biggest thrill that I think people can have, a White House is great, but if they come here to the Oval Office, don't you think, to get their award and present it here, you say, I'm sorry, my father is in a meeting.

See, I work with you most of the time.

And it symbolically works, but the fact that you're not in your office makes automatically the excuse why you're not in the office.

What do you think of that, Trish?

That'd be good.

We use the Oval Office for that purpose.

Only for the panel.

I wouldn't let anybody else use it.

for the family to make the awards come here and receive them in here.

Doesn't that give Motherhouse an enormous jab about not doing that?

She does.

He's encouraging her on that.

Yeah, boy, they give it to encourage her to do it.

Oh, so great.

They encourage her on it, too.

She must not wear herself out with huge handshakers.

They aren't working.

But, Danny, she needs someone to help with her scheduling.

Now, that's true.

She's going out now.

It's terrific.

But her later trip, you can't imagine the great pleasure she got.

I saw the great pleasure.

And if you just do your best.

We do try it.

I mean, we do try it.

Help us get it right.

People listen to us.

Well.

Well, I'll tell you... All I'm saying is that if they didn't also be working on a proposal for her and something, I guess Senator Connie itself would be able to...

He does not.

I think you see, Connie's really cooperating pretty well, and I think Connie and I have struck off a real good relationship.

Well, they do, but I think they have a thing to do.

Bob, you and Dave and Connie sit down and say we've talked this whole thing over here.

First of all, let's get her out of the handshaking.

She's so used to, I mean, well, it's tiring.

She doesn't realize, too, that she's going to have to look the main thing.

You don't have to worry because you're young.

But older people have to look up.

We've got to look, you know, alive and so forth.

But she grew up tired at times, and she will.

And also, she'll wear out one day.

Those things are very tough.

But she has to knock the handshake off, do more of the other things.

Of course, that's what she feels comfortable doing.

I know.

No, but not really.

She's her happiest when she comes back from a trip.

And she's got fantastic stories.

She can't believe that this has happened.

And she needs a news summary and a post-edition of it.

After she says something to us.

Right.

And I think she can have 500 people here for tea every other day.

And they go, there are a lot of them.

Not one inch.

You have to do the unusual.

That's right.

And her remarks at the Atlanta Banquet were fantastic.

Our local reporter tape recorded them and printed them in full.

Let me tell you this.

Never worry about your remarks.

Don't worry about whatever I shouldn't have said.

Forget it.

Be natural.

Be uninhibited.

And don't worry about it.

Many can keep everything short.

You all don't have to worry about it.

Some people do have to.

I think one thing that you can do is to

I think, Bob, they do need some help, though, if I can say so, on some of the writing, some writing, you know.

And it's just a doctor who puts somebody in there with a charge, all they can.

Daddy, don't you think that short remarks are always the most effective?

Like five minutes or like...

Yes, five minutes.

Absolutely.

Get up there, get five minutes, and now.

Because you're, and always there should be another speaker.

Which is the suggestion I'm going to make.

Yeah, what is that?

We're going to do scheduling.

We're going to do universities and that sort of thing.

Particularly when we get out into the Midwest and part of the West, they might ask you to be a featured speaker, which is, which was an event

which enabled us to get it worked into a couple of campuses, and it just doesn't work.

It really doesn't.

If you're a featured speaker, they expect something on the order of 10, 15, 20 minutes.

And you want to get into a, again, like a question and answer, one table type discussion.

I can't hear that.

I'm just going to take it.

I mean, we should not start with it.

We won't.

We should speak here.

I don't think that.

But that's more than many of the invitations.

And then you turn around and say, we'd love to come.

We'd like a casual question and answer, give and take thing.

Well, now, one other thing that I think you should have in mind, if you're going to look, if you're going to go for an evening television, now, this is something that's extremely important.

Remember this.

Schedule the events at noon.

Don't do anything after 3 o'clock is lost.

Now they all lunch for dinners and the rest.

And so if you have to go for the dinner, fine.

But remember, unless it's going to be, unless you're going to go on television live at night, don't do anything after 3 o'clock in the afternoon.

Do it at noon, do it in the morning.

That's the whole scheme.

You're going to go on live.

But believe me, the worst waste of time is the evening rally.

Except for the people that are there and the few newspapers that make it happen.

How about the evening dinner?

Worse.

And also, they're all bored.

But that's it.

You're trapped between two people, and you spend all that time with two people.

You should do it.

You should steer clear of that kind of stuff.

You should come on and come off the same way the President does.

Of course, we can't do that.

We can't go up to five minutes.

You can't go to a dinner?

No.

You can't go to a dinner at all?

No.

Just go to one.

You can work other kinds of events.

Do dedications of public centers at 11 o'clock in the morning.

What I could do with regard to your mom is this.

She should do an event about once a week out in Washington.

I know she should do an event.

Just plan it.

Once a week out in Washington.

And nothing else.

Because it's very similar, isn't it?

She always feels right.

But you see, if she does, and she doesn't need to go for three, four days, just one event, once a week out of Washington, and that's about as much as the traffic will bear.

That's another reason we need a good speaker, because she needs remarks, too.

A good writer, basically.

Well, what will help her in that?

Andrew's just very well.

He does, but he needs more time.

Well, everybody needs time, and instead of that, when you talk about writing, it's the hardest to follow.

I know, I'm not the expert in that.

We have none that we consider that nobody is a great writer.

No, they have to, this is what, you better read, what you have to read is history and biography.

And if you read history and biography, the anecdotes will flow into your mind.

But that's the only thing that fills the mind for the purpose of speech writing.

I know this is true.

And none of our people know it.

I mean, it's just...

They say, well, I read that book 30 years ago.

I say, well, they don't even remember about it.

And they don't even remember how long it was.

Or the other thing is, this is the important thing.

They don't recognize anecdotes.

They don't recognize...

They don't sense, well, now this is something that is a story.

Or an armistice appeal is the same thing.

You see all the great ministers, and you said the great speakers, but it's certainly the great ministers.

are storytellers.

And of course, the greatest, you've got to, if you read the New Testament, there's a, by the way, it talks about the Gospels and its profound philosophy.

What are the Gospels?

It's just a series of parables strung together, except for the Beatitudes and so on.

And a man went to a bar counter,

And his son gave him, you know what I mean?

And then there was a woman in here, etc.

That's what you teach.

And the modern writers, they don't do it.

Okay, and then I'm going to work on it.

What is this?

What is this work about?

What is that really?

It's a great, well, it's supposed to be a cool, sparkly picture.

Remember, you know what I mean?

Yeah, I'm getting it.

I'm getting it.

Anything like that?

We've got little gifts.

I want to show you that.

Now, people that are interested.

Bookmark.

That's just a golf ball with a seal on it.

These are just a piece of golf.

These are high class.

These are complex speeches.

We also have maturates.

May I come?

Well, if you would like any of these, would each of you like a, uh, like a few of these, or take a moment and show that you could, uh, give them to your friends?

I mean, they've searched us like a hundred and a half years.

These are not, uh, you know, uh, we always, uh, I know it's nice to take pictures together because it's so fun to do.

Pen, do you have pen?

Yeah.

And there's a different story, I think.

Yeah, I'm sure she's awaiting everybody.

That was the story.

Yeah, but that's true, but I mean, you're right.

You're right.

Maybe we can tell her that we get her in some way, but we haven't worked out.

All right.

Have a good time tonight.

Have a good time.

Okay.

Chinese certificates, and the thing that bothers me is the tactics and the terms.

I think it's a game to this end.

That's right.

Let me use the picture.

But Bill's tactics, I don't know if this is wrong.

No, no, let me get closer to the camera.

It should be the order of the new China.

That's right.

But we can get Mrs. Nixon in this way.

I really think it's .

That's the person's name.

Well, I hope that James is going to say something.

I was thinking of a party where I would refer them, so you can't do that.

All right, fine.

Should we call it certificate or certificate of membership?

But you can't, you don't need them.

Yes, sir.

by these presidents that or something like that.

You see what I mean?

This is to certify that.

You've got to have something like that at the beginning.

I don't care what it is.

But why not accommodate Mrs. Nixon and me?

I don't like that.

The presidentialist, what are we saying, who was a member of the

And we're just doing this with the merits of the press, are we not now?

Who are we going to get to everybody to win?

This is what we've probably done.

Why not?

It means a hell of a lot to me.

Um, like you.

Yeah, uh, well.

This is my home.

Certify that, and then leave the bond certified.

Yeah, thank you.

Uh.

You want to say it was a participant in the journey for peace of the People's Republic of China?

It was a...

This is their travel or...

You just said this just to certify that Blank is hereby appointed a member of the Order of the New China Hands.

You've got to put the... You've got to say you went on the trip.

Oh, sure.

Any other wording you've used on the other trip certificates we can see?

Yeah, but I'm certain I didn't.

The cognitive disaffection is not a breach of certain...

Why don't you say participated in the presidential journey?

What do you think?

Call it that.

Okay, the presidential visit.

Participated in the president's company.

Participated.

Or...

I think that's presidential visit to the PRC.

Participated in presidential dates.

Visit...

You want to say participated, why don't you say for the press?

Why don't you say participated?

Isn't that it?

Participated in the presidential visit.

And then you don't overstate it at all.

Participated in the presidential visit.

How's that?

It is.

There's many other options.

I don't really use that picture.

I always just use the hands.

Oh, never.

Never say never.

The hands.

The hands are the other.

It is symbolic.

Symbolic also.

Instead of the hands, there's a great picture.

Yep.

A picture of two hands.

Yep.

That's the historical.

Here's the congressional dinner list.

Do you want to look at it?

The retiring Congress types?

When do they have in mind the time?

They want to do it the week of the 17th.

I think we've got a week.

is that some people's off the boat since we got the Comer lunch that week, which is, well, one congressional thing already.

And then you're gonna do that AS&E Q&A, which works out good.

Well, you gotta hold us that way.

I'm gonna hold.

The time to do it would be like the 26th.

I know.

I'm going to do that.

I'm going to hold the 26th to myself.

Okay.

On the possibility of the first man.

I do it on the, maybe the 25th.

I'm going to hold it.

You see, because of this...

I'll give you the retired meetings first.

They're mostly Republicans.

Practical enough.

I'm glad that I'll be a young boy.

I don't know.

And what they've listed is the members in key legislative positions that can help on what we're trying to do.

Okay, all right.

And I'm just saying for the retiring members of Congress.

I think you pretty much have to rather than singling them out, we'll have them all here.

And the leaders, I think you have to have the leaders.

Well, Menfield and Scott won't be here.

That works out nicely.

Ellender, they're not included because they don't have Scott and Menfield.

That's right.

Boggs and O'Neill, they're not included because of their political posture.

And then they pick the people that will work with you.

Yeah.

Well, the Chowder Marching Band, we should have that.

And SOS.

Yeah.

I think that's a good idea.

Yeah.

And then, see, these are the supportive types that did the...

Fine.

Then they have a reserve list of about ten people now that are going to use round tables.

So you can get about a hundred times.

So we can go to the reserve list probably in a hundred times.

That's more junior people that have super high support scores.

But go for more Republicans than Democrats.

For very solid reasons here.

There's no problem.

Thank you.

You want something that I can chew on?

I think I'll pass it here.

I want some of that consummate, please.

Do you have that?

The kind that doesn't have consummate for that?

Right.

One thing I see here is the weakness of the situation on that.

Preparing.

Yep.

Talking points.

Yep.

And so forth.

You put the sword in his face, ran on that, and said that I considered the most important thing over there.

And frankly, they can't do very much for me anyway, nor may I.

If my mind comes down to it, I'm probably going to do more myself.

So God, have them do it for others.

Do you agree with that?

They say it's not feasible because of the wind and potential weather.

And they suggest rather that we simply greet the team and not try to do a match here.

Our target would be to do it in the Eastern.

We could have them set up a table and play out just a quick exhibition match in the Eastern.

One thing they suggested is they're going to do an exhibition at Cole Field House at the University of Maryland the night before.

I said, Julie, go to that.

And then she'd come in with them the next day when they come here to see you.

And she started there.

Oopsies.

She was.

Apparently the Kissinger hate talks are a little concerned about building love that much at the White House with the North and the East are attacking a lot too.

And he's got a doppelganger.

Very certain.

Yeah, that's what I do.