{"conversationCode":"705-005","tapeNumber":705,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-705-005","startDateTime":"1972-04-10T16:33:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-04-10T16:41:00.000Z","startDate":"10-Apr-1972","startTime":"11:33 AM","endDate":"10-Apr-1972","endTime":"11:41 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On April 10, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:33 am and 11:41 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 705-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 705-5\n\nDate: April 10, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 11:33 am and 11:41 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President talked with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.\n\n     Project on voter participation\n          -Possible cancellation\n          -Political advisability\n                -White House staff\n          -Boy Scouts of America\n                -Comparison\n          -Purpose","filename":["705-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:20:45","tapeEnd":"02:26:05","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"705-004","nextCode":"705-006","transcript":[{"start":7.45,"end":11.03,"text":"I noticed that the Army has its project border participation."},{"start":11.09,"end":15.89,"text":"I suppose it's too late to turn that off."},{"start":16.99,"end":26.54,"text":"I assume nobody with any political sense in our shop ever recommended such a thing."},{"start":26.6,"end":29.42,"text":"Okay."},{"start":30.06,"end":33.58,"text":"I just want to be sure we didn't have a maniac loose around the place."},{"start":35.12,"end":35.36,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":37.02,"end":37.44,"text":"I understand."},{"start":39.2,"end":41.42,"text":"You know, it's like the Boy Scouts getting the vote out."},{"start":41.44,"end":42.22,"text":"What are they going to do?"},{"start":42.24,"end":45.8,"text":"Go down the harbor and get in the boat and all that kind of thing."},{"start":45.82,"end":47.62,"text":"You know, this is a very, this is a very bad idea."},{"start":47.65,"end":49.83,"text":"You know, you don't follow the game."},{"start":49.95,"end":58.91,"text":"It's a, it's a hell of a bad idea that they want to help our cause because what they generally do is to... Yeah."},{"start":69.81,"end":70.07,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":73.19,"end":73.27,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":73.29,"end":75.76,"text":"All right."},{"start":75.78,"end":80.74,"text":"So the purpose of this is to just thank them for what they've done and wish them well."},{"start":80.76,"end":85.92,"text":"Because they have been great in the past."},{"start":85.96,"end":88.33,"text":"Well, I saw, they saw that I couldn't leave."},{"start":88.43,"end":88.91,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":88.97,"end":89.85,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":89.95,"end":91.81,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":92.15,"end":95.45,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":97.06,"end":101.44,"text":"Guys, they have to and they're good friends for the most part."},{"start":101.46,"end":101.7,"text":"Okay."},{"start":102,"end":102.22,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H.R. Haldeman discuss the political advisability of an Army voter participation project, which the President critiques as a poor idea similar to the Boy Scouts' civic engagement efforts. Concerned about the initiative's origins within his administration, Nixon questions if any staff members were responsible for the project's inception. Ultimately, the conversation shifts toward managing relationships with outside groups, concluding that the administration should focus on maintaining goodwill with established allies rather than pursuing questionable voter mobilization programs.","topics":["voter participation","political strategy","White House staff","Boy Scouts of America","Army","public relations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T02:56:40.967Z"},"topicSlugs":["voter-participation","political-strategy","white-house-staff","boy-scouts-of-america","army","public-relations"],"audioDurationSec":104,"audioFiles":[{"file":"705-005.mp3","bytes":4161616,"durationSec":103.91,"bitrate":320400,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:55.376Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/705-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/705-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/705/conversation-705-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}