{"conversationCode":"705-017","tapeNumber":705,"conversationNumber":17,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-705-017","startDateTime":"1972-04-10T21:45:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-04-10T21:46:00.000Z","startDate":"10-Apr-1972","startTime":"4:45 PM","endDate":"10-Apr-1972","endTime":"4:46 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On April 10, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:45 pm to 4:46 pm. 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Harper\n               -Instructions for the President\n               -Refreshments\n                      -State Department dinner\n                            -Timing\n                      -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon\n                            -Attendance\n                                 -Necessity\n\nBull left at 4:46 pm.","filename":["705-017.mp3"],"tapeStart":"04:38:55","tapeEnd":"04:40:40","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"705-016","nextCode":"705-018","transcript":[{"start":0.23,"end":7.48,"text":"What is the situation on this ?"},{"start":7.62,"end":16.37,"text":"Just as a remarks of greetings to the people there at 630, they have a dinner over at the State Department hosted by Secretary Hodgson."},{"start":19.36,"end":21.34,"text":"and having your executive session this afternoon."},{"start":21.48,"end":25.18,"text":"And Mr. Metcalf is going to like to hear you."},{"start":25.85,"end":28.17,"text":"John Harper is the outgoing one."},{"start":28.21,"end":29.73,"text":"They'll look at the platform."},{"start":29.77,"end":37.53,"text":"They're not speaking or anything of that nature."},{"start":37.71,"end":42.19,"text":"You're just coming in to welcome them."},{"start":43.57,"end":47.27,"text":"This is just you participated in past years in various ways."},{"start":50.91,"end":55.51,"text":"They'll have the usual four jurors and regressions, coxelles afterwards."},{"start":55.53,"end":57.81,"text":"But they're going to the State Department for dinner."},{"start":57.84,"end":58.16,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":58.2,"end":58.62,"text":"They go to 631."},{"start":59.8,"end":64.24,"text":"But they're only expecting us to go to this three-year period."},{"start":64.28,"end":65.18,"text":"Yeah, for three years."},{"start":65.88,"end":67.2,"text":"Well, you let me know when they're ready."},{"start":67.24,"end":68.52,"text":"They're not ready now."},{"start":69.08,"end":69.86,"text":"I'm not ready yet, sir."},{"start":69.9,"end":72.8,"text":"You're running my bus right now."},{"start":72.82,"end":74.48,"text":"I'm not expecting this."},{"start":74.56,"end":76.54,"text":"In fact, it's only going to be one minute."},{"start":76.66,"end":77.33,"text":"Yeah, good."},{"start":77.86,"end":78.61,"text":"Well, don't have any..."},{"start":81.13,"end":84.56,"text":"speaking for these events, it isn't necessary for her to go."},{"start":84.58,"end":86.02,"text":"I mean, don't go running off."},{"start":86.08,"end":97.23,"text":"She was originally planning to attend, but when she, well, it would look to be out, but then she had to stay, and she called her damn parents, and she didn't do that, expected to attend."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with aide Stephen B. Bull to finalize logistical arrangements for his brief remarks at a reception for the National Alliance of Businessmen. They discussed the schedule for the event and the dinner hosted by Secretary of Labor James D. Hodgson, clarifying that the President’s participation would be limited to welcoming the guests. Nixon also decided that First Lady Pat Nixon’s attendance was unnecessary for the brief appearance.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","National Alliance of Businessmen","Pat Nixon","White House logistics","James D. 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