{"conversationCode":"711-009","tapeNumber":711,"conversationNumber":9,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-711-009","startDateTime":"1972-04-18T16:55:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-04-18T16:58:00.000Z","startDate":"18-Apr-1972","startTime":"11:55 AM","endDate":"18-Apr-1972","endTime":"11:58 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Cox, Tricia Nixon;","description":"On April 18, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Tricia Nixon Cox met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:55 am to 11:58 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 711-009 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 711-9\n\nDate: April 18, 1972\nTime: 11:55 am - 11:58 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President talked with Tricia Nixon Cox.\n\n     [See Conversation No. 23-19]","filename":["711-009.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:10:14","tapeEnd":"02:14:08","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Cox, Tricia Nixon"],"prevCode":"711-008","nextCode":"711-010","transcript":[{"start":4.84,"end":5.36,"text":"Yeah, yeah."},{"start":36.92,"end":37.32,"text":"You were."},{"start":37.38,"end":37.94,"text":"You and who?"},{"start":38,"end":38.64,"text":"You and Rogers?"},{"start":39.16,"end":39.44,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":41.07,"end":42.47,"text":"Do you think you should not have gone?"},{"start":99.32,"end":99.64,"text":"Was there?"},{"start":99.68,"end":100.66,"text":"Who did they throw at?"},{"start":104.11,"end":104.39,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":104.93,"end":107.59,"text":"What about the day they introduced Rodgers, they moved him too?"},{"start":115.05,"end":115.31,"text":"No."},{"start":115.79,"end":119.39,"text":"Well, they wouldn't because he didn't do it."},{"start":119.47,"end":122.06,"text":"Well, I was concerned about the thing myself."},{"start":123.4,"end":126.28,"text":"Because I'm always of the view that you don't go to university."},{"start":147.79,"end":148.07,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":148.67,"end":148.93,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":150.11,"end":150.33,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":150.59,"end":151.55,"text":"How did you go?"},{"start":151.57,"end":152.87,"text":"Maybe the mic doesn't show yet."},{"start":155.59,"end":155.9,"text":"Oh, good."},{"start":155.91,"end":159.4,"text":"When are you going to go?"},{"start":159.42,"end":162.28,"text":"Oh, you're going to do it fine."},{"start":162.3,"end":163.38,"text":"We don't have to worry about it."},{"start":163.42,"end":169.2,"text":"The thing to do is that our people are just too goddamn stupid to have any brains."},{"start":169.26,"end":172.38,"text":"I thought of the University of Maryland thing."},{"start":216.03,"end":228.54,"text":"Well, no, I think you are taking them on a tour, but I don't know."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and his daughter, Tricia Nixon Cox, discuss recent public appearances at universities and the negative receptions faced by administration officials, specifically Secretary of State William Rogers. The President expresses his disapproval of officials attending campus events, characterizing his own staff's handling of these situations as inadequate. The exchange concludes with the President offering reassurance regarding Tricia's upcoming public engagements.","topics":["Tricia Nixon Cox","Campus unrest","William Rogers","Public relations","University appearances","Administration strategy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T03:04:20.721Z"},"topicSlugs":["tricia-nixon-cox","campus-unrest","william-rogers","public-relations","university-appearances","administration-strategy"],"audioDurationSec":235,"audioFiles":[{"file":"711-009.mp3","bytes":9422677,"durationSec":235.43,"bitrate":320183,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:55.376Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/711-009.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/711-009","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/711/conversation-711-009","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}