{"conversationCode":"712-004","tapeNumber":712,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-712-004","startDateTime":"1972-04-18T21:56:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-04-18T22:00:00.000Z","startDate":"18-Apr-1972","startTime":"4:56 PM","endDate":"18-Apr-1972","endTime":"5:00 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; MacGregor, Clark; Butterfield, Alexander P.;","description":"On April 18, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, Clark MacGregor, and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:56 pm and 5:00 pm. 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Butterfield entered at an unknown time after 5:01 pm.\n\n       The President's schedule\n            -Sequoia trip\n                  -Time\n            -Telephone call\n\nBull and Butterfield left at an unknown time before 5:03 pm.","filename":["712a.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:06:31","tapeEnd":"01:08:22","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B.","MacGregor, Clark","Butterfield, Alexander P."],"prevCode":"712-003","nextCode":"712-005","tapeTranscriptFile":"712a.mp3","transcript":[{"start":4004.73,"end":4006.63,"text":"Would you see if they could get the Sequoia?"},{"start":4009.45,"end":4013.37,"text":"I'm not sure it is available."},{"start":4013.43,"end":4019.99,"text":"Sequoia is available."},{"start":4020.01,"end":4020.45,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":4021.93,"end":4022.19,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":4023.57,"end":4024.53,"text":"Yeah, hi, Clark."},{"start":4025.45,"end":4026.25,"text":"Are you in your office?"},{"start":4026.83,"end":4027.75,"text":"Oh, come on over a minute."},{"start":4028.41,"end":4029.99,"text":"Fine, fine."},{"start":4033.91,"end":4036.31,"text":"Mr. President, you said 5.3, you'd like to leave here?"},{"start":4036.37,"end":4040.28,"text":"You know, leave here, so we'll be there about 5.5."},{"start":4040.32,"end":4043.18,"text":"Yeah, I will, yeah."},{"start":4043.36,"end":4047.64,"text":"I guess, you know, we could have figures of one or two, maybe two."},{"start":4047.66,"end":4051.68,"text":"So I'm just going to take a look at that."},{"start":4052.06,"end":4052.38,"text":"All right."},{"start":4052.4,"end":4053.4,"text":"So you don't want to sell?"},{"start":4054.02,"end":4054.24,"text":"Huh?"},{"start":4054.46,"end":4055.34,"text":"You don't want to sell?"},{"start":4055.4,"end":4057.4,"text":"They can be prepared to sell."},{"start":4057.42,"end":4059.55,"text":"Oh, yeah, I'm going to have a couple of parts on."},{"start":4067.76,"end":4072.65,"text":"I know, but he wants to make this call tonight, so..."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":3990.25,"end":4095.25,"startMethod":"silence","endMethod":"silence"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon coordinated with staff members Stephen Bull, Clark MacGregor, and Alexander Butterfield to arrange a private trip aboard the presidential yacht, the Sequoia. The participants finalized the logistics for a late afternoon departure and dinner, while also briefly discussing the timing of an urgent telephone call to be placed by the President. These arrangements were intended to facilitate an informal meeting away from the office.","topics":["Sequoia","Presidential schedule","Logistics","Clark MacGregor","Executive travel"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T03:05:53.020Z"},"topicSlugs":["sequoia","presidential-schedule","logistics","clark-macgregor","executive-travel"],"audioDurationSec":111,"audioFiles":[{"file":"712a.mp3","bytes":148077295,"durationSec":6169.82,"bitrate":192002,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":true,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.687Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/712a.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/712-004","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/712/conversation-712-004","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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