{"conversationCode":"714-007","tapeNumber":714,"conversationNumber":7,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-714-007","startDateTime":"1972-04-20T16:43:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-04-20T16:46:00.000Z","startDate":"20-Apr-1972","startTime":"11:43 AM","endDate":"20-Apr-1972","endTime":"11:46 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Carlson, Clifford D.; Carson, Carol A.; Friedersdorf, Max L.; Bull, Stephen B.; White House photographer;","description":"On April 20, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Clifford D. Carlson, Carol A. Carson, Max L. Friedersdorf, Stephen B. Bull, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:43 am to 11:46 am. 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Bull and the White House photographer were present at the beginning of the meeting.\n\n     Greetings and introductions\n\n     Carol Carlson\n          -Age\n                -Compared with Tricia Nixon Cox\n\n     Cliffard Carlson\n           -Previous meeting with the President\n           -Death of wife\n\n     [Photograph session]\n          -Arrangements\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3\n[Personal returnable]\n[Duration: 1m 40s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n     Presidential gifts\n          -Cuff links\n          -Pin\n          -Golf balls\n\n           -Tie clips\n\n     White House\n          -Tour of Rose Garden\n               -Plants\n\n     Cliffard Carlson's residence in Washington area\n           -Washington property as investment\n           -Cliffard Carlson's tenure in Congress\n\nCliffard Carlson et al. left at 11:46 am.","filename":["714a.mp3","714b.mp3","714c.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:31:10","tapeEnd":"02:35:23","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Carlson, Clifford D.","Carson, Carol A.","Friedersdorf, Max L.","Bull, Stephen B.","White House photographer"],"prevCode":"714-006","nextCode":"714-008","tapeTranscriptFile":"714a.mp3,714b.mp3,714c.mp3","transcript":[{"start":9129.23,"end":9131.29,"text":"Let's stop on that."},{"start":9131.31,"end":9133.55,"text":"I think it's such a beautiful ride."},{"start":9133.71,"end":9139.84,"text":"Do you want to read it for me?"},{"start":9139.86,"end":9142.4,"text":"There's a seal here."},{"start":9143.64,"end":9145.14,"text":"See the pretty flowers?"},{"start":9145.9,"end":9151.76,"text":"You saw those on the other dimension."},{"start":9154.58,"end":9156.24,"text":"There's no flowers here."},{"start":9157.2,"end":9165.36,"text":"No, I mean out the window, out in the garden."},{"start":9165.52,"end":9166.12,"text":"I'm sorry."},{"start":9166.18,"end":9167.68,"text":"Hey, get off."},{"start":9167.7,"end":9169.73,"text":"Get off the train for the tracking."},{"start":9169.77,"end":9172.17,"text":"Oh, I'm sorry."},{"start":9172.21,"end":9174.01,"text":"I'm coming across the field."},{"start":9181.67,"end":9183.39,"text":"Mr. Grissom?"},{"start":9183.89,"end":9185.99,"text":"I'd like for you to meet Congressman Carlson."},{"start":9186.25,"end":9187.37,"text":"Well, how are you?"},{"start":9187.45,"end":9189.13,"text":"We know each other very well."},{"start":9189.33,"end":9189.99,"text":"Good to see you."},{"start":9190.01,"end":9192.35,"text":"Is that Mother Carol, your friend?"},{"start":9192.82,"end":9193,"text":"She's 21?"},{"start":9193.5,"end":9196.14,"text":"She doesn't look that old."},{"start":9196.74,"end":9200.82,"text":"Like my older girl, she just looks, who's now 26, and she looks 15."},{"start":9201.58,"end":9206.58,"text":"You were very gracious when Chuck had the troop in L.A. That's right."},{"start":9206.68,"end":9207.98,"text":"That's right."},{"start":9208.06,"end":9209.06,"text":"You were there."},{"start":9209.2,"end":9211.3,"text":"I never thought I'd be in Congress."},{"start":9211.8,"end":9212.54,"text":"Yeah, well..."},{"start":9213.69,"end":9218.98,"text":"Well, I must say, while we're off, of course, glad to welcome you here."},{"start":9220.74,"end":9222.12,"text":"It's such a tragedy, your wife."},{"start":9222.9,"end":9223.6,"text":"Unbelievable."},{"start":9224.12,"end":9225.56,"text":"Unbelievable that this could happen."},{"start":9226.08,"end":9228.28,"text":"Well, you're a strong man and you're a strong girl."},{"start":9228.38,"end":9229.15,"text":"Right."},{"start":9229.91,"end":9230.55,"text":"That's right."},{"start":9230.59,"end":9231.25,"text":"She's here now."},{"start":9231.95,"end":9233.45,"text":"Now, let's get a picture."},{"start":9233.53,"end":9235.01,"text":"That's what we do when we do a congressman."},{"start":9235.05,"end":9235.91,"text":"Come on over here."},{"start":9236.97,"end":9238.07,"text":"First, you alone."},{"start":9238.09,"end":9239.83,"text":"Like this."},{"start":9239.85,"end":9242.05,"text":"This will be all right."},{"start":9242.07,"end":9242.51,"text":"All of you."},{"start":9247.65,"end":9253.2,"text":"Good, now when you come over, we'll get our daughter in here."},{"start":9253.66,"end":9256.6,"text":"Right between, so I think we should have you on the end."},{"start":9256.75,"end":9257.75,"text":"Now, here's our daughter."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":9077,"end":9314,"startMethod":"silence","endMethod":"silence"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Clifford D. 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