{"conversationCode":"714-021","tapeNumber":714,"conversationNumber":21,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-714-021","startDateTime":"1972-04-20T21:21:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-04-20T21:24:00.000Z","startDate":"20-Apr-1972","startTime":"4:21 PM","endDate":"20-Apr-1972","endTime":"4:24 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Hope, Lelsie T. (\"Bob\"); Ziegler, Ronald L.; Atkins, Oliver F. (\"Ollie\");","description":"On April 20, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Lelsie T. (\"Bob\") Hope, Ronald L. Ziegler, and Oliver F. (\"Ollie\") Atkins met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:21 pm to 4:24 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 714-021 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 714-21\n\nDate: April 20, 1972\nTime: 4:21 pm - 4:24 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Leslie T. (“Bob”) Hope, Ronald L. Ziegler and Oliver F. (“Ollie”)\nAtkins.\n\n     Greetings\n\n     Hope's show\n\n     Photographs\n          -Rose Garden\n               -Lighting\n          -Flags\n\n     Gift presentation\n           -Putter\n                 -Quality\n                 -Hope’s trophy room\n                 -Previous golf games with the President\n\n     American Society of Newspaper Editors [ASNE] reception\n         -Jokes\n               -The President's attendance\n               -Pandas\n               -Jack N. Anderson\n\n     Rose Garden\n          -Photographs\n\nThe President et al. left at 4:24 pm.","filename":["714a.mp3","714b.mp3","714c.mp3"],"tapeStart":"04:06:44","tapeEnd":"04:10:11","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Hope, Lelsie T. (\"Bob\")","Ziegler, Ronald L.","Atkins, Oliver F. (\"Ollie\")"],"prevCode":"714-020","nextCode":"714-022","tapeTranscriptFile":"714a.mp3,714b.mp3,714c.mp3","transcript":[{"start":14827.75,"end":14832.28,"text":"It is not a running chance."},{"start":14834.12,"end":14834.28,"text":"Oh."},{"start":14878.45,"end":14882.67,"text":"We're all set now, Patricia."},{"start":14882.69,"end":14892.68,"text":"Well, she told me on the phone show, someone just told me she wasn't going home."},{"start":14892.7,"end":14894.22,"text":"Maybe I should call her and tell her."},{"start":14894.26,"end":14894.78,"text":"Well, I'm sorry."},{"start":14894.8,"end":14895.64,"text":"I'll speak to her."},{"start":14895.74,"end":14906.25,"text":"I'm going to report to you."},{"start":14906.29,"end":14906.39,"text":"Okay."},{"start":14908.25,"end":14912.35,"text":"I think I'll go up there any minute."},{"start":14912.39,"end":14914.77,"text":"I think I'm better off then."},{"start":14914.79,"end":14915.31,"text":"Get up there."},{"start":14915.35,"end":14915.53,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":14915.57,"end":14916.75,"text":"Maybe get there at 435 or so."},{"start":14917.19,"end":14917.53,"text":"I'll love it."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":14767.625,"end":14978.125,"startMethod":"silence","endMethod":"silence"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with entertainer Bob Hope, Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler, and photographer Ollie Atkins to discuss logistics for an upcoming photo session in the Rose Garden. The group coordinated the use of flags and specific lighting for the shots, while also briefly reflecting on Hope’s golf game and past encounters. Additionally, they touched upon potential comedic material regarding the President’s attendance at an American Society of Newspaper Editors reception, specifically mentioning pandas and columnist Jack Anderson.","topics":["Bob Hope","Rose Garden","Photography","ASNE","Public Relations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T03:08:42.440Z"},"topicSlugs":["bob-hope","rose-garden","photography","asne","public-relations"],"audioDurationSec":207,"audioFiles":[{"file":"714a.mp3","bytes":175575457,"durationSec":7315.59,"bitrate":192001,"missing":false},{"file":"714b.mp3","bytes":176352234,"durationSec":7347.94,"bitrate":192001,"missing":false},{"file":"714c.mp3","bytes":51077328,"durationSec":2128.16,"bitrate":192005,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":true,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.687Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/714a.mp3","https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/714b.mp3","https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/714c.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/714-021","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/714/conversation-714-021","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}