Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 715-003 Date: Wednesday, April 26, 1972 at 12:19 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); DeSimone, Herbert F.; Colson, Charles W.; White House photographer Recording device: Oval Office Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/715-003 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:03] Why don't you take one of us sitting down? [1:02] I thought he would. [1:03] He is unbelievable. [1:42] I don't know what he did. [1:46] I don't know what he did. [1:48] I don't know what he did. [2:08] So we have . [2:09] So we feel very, very good about things. [2:12] We also feel very good about . [2:40] Yeah. [2:41] Yeah. [2:42] Yeah. [3:18] a lot about that, that you've worked closely with all of our people, and that you had the, you know, to the extent that it will help our personal interests. [3:27] And I expect it to play out just the way you want, all the way, because I think it will be good for the party, not only for you to win, but Governor, I think it's good for you, because of your Italian background, your national, it's good for you to get on. [3:55] He's a hell of a guy. [3:56] Strong, vigorous, tough guy. [3:59] But we think nationally it's very important to go out there. [4:05] There isn't an integrity to go any more than they're saying. [4:09] But they are there. [4:10] They are there. [4:12] And they basically are patriotic. [4:14] They're warm-hearted. [4:16] They're intelligent. [4:17] And they just shouldn't be on a left-wing side. [4:39] Well, he's third, but he was supposed to head of the government unless Captain Wallace has lost. [5:14] Yeah, he says he's turned the car. [5:16] I don't know what happened to the delegates. [5:19] He's not lost the delegates as well. [5:22] He's got 30 of them. [5:22] He's got, I think, 27 of them left. [5:24] He's got the paragraph to the best that he's [5:56] So I would take it to the likes of the author who would make it hard for our credit friends to develop consensus. [6:03] I don't know. [6:04] He's a hard guy. [6:04] He's an ideologue. [6:06] But we'll be going there. [6:07] There are other guys that were pulled into the regular trading machine. [6:25] I talked to two presidents this morning. [6:28] They said they're getting ready to quit the Democratic Party. [6:34] I noticed that our people in the press are saying it's a rebuke for the president. [6:41] He's got 82% of the vote on Muskie. [6:43] Don't you? [6:44] He's got 13% as a protest. [6:46] I mean, I know what they have. [6:47] I'm sure. [6:57] But I would say this. [6:58] If you can work in some trips outside, or be sure you're going to win after you've won the election, [7:23] And I think you will be from everything out here. [7:26] And I don't follow most of them from out here, but you should be ahead. [7:30] But nevertheless, if you can, pop out and make some, make a few talks for us. [7:35] Particularly in New Jersey and in New York. [7:38] That should be the New Jersey New York. [7:40] That's very close to you. [7:41] You could just pop over and you could say that you're doing this to question the president. [7:47] But that will help hurt you here. [8:02] And win, that's all. [8:03] All the way.