{"conversationCode":"717-003","tapeNumber":717,"conversationNumber":3,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-717-003","startDateTime":"1972-05-02T14:57:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-02T14:58:00.000Z","startDate":"2-May-1972","startTime":"10:57 AM","endDate":"2-May-1972","endTime":"10:58 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan);","description":"On May 2, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:57 am to 10:58 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 717-003 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 717-3\n\nDate: May 2, 1972\nTime: 10:57-10:58 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President talked with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.\n\n**************************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 10/18/2022.\nSegment cleared for release.]\n\n[Personal Returnable]\n[717-003-w001]\n[Duration: 19s]\n\n[See Conversation No. 23-106]\n\n**************************************************************************","filename":["717-003.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:03:42","tapeEnd":"00:08:07","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan)"],"prevCode":"717-002","nextCode":"717-004","transcript":[{"start":4.45,"end":9.18,"text":"After Hoover died last night, and I'm not gonna say it, but I just wanted you to know something."},{"start":9.2,"end":9.72,"text":"Okay."},{"start":9.76,"end":11.16,"text":"Died in his sleep."},{"start":12.4,"end":13.67,"text":"And he fell to earth this morning."},{"start":14.59,"end":14.97,"text":"Okay."},{"start":16.15,"end":16.91,"text":"You, hello?"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon informs First Lady Pat Nixon of the passing of FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, who died in his sleep the previous night. The brief exchange confirms the news and serves to ensure the First Lady is personally apprised of the death before it is publicly acknowledged. No further official actions or strategic decisions were discussed during this short interaction.","topics":["J. Edgar Hoover","Pat Nixon","FBI","Presidential communication","Death"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T03:10:30.934Z"},"topicSlugs":["j-edgar-hoover","pat-nixon","fbi","presidential-communication","death"],"audioDurationSec":19,"audioFiles":[{"file":"717-003.mp3","bytes":771967,"durationSec":19.15,"bitrate":322512,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.687Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:21.855Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/717-003.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/717-003","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/717/conversation-717-003","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}