{"conversationCode":"717-013","tapeNumber":717,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-717-013","startDateTime":"1972-05-02T15:50:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-02T15:51:00.000Z","startDate":"2-May-1972","startTime":"11:50 AM","endDate":"2-May-1972","endTime":"11:51 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Butterfield, Alexander P.; Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On May 2, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander P. Butterfield, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:50 am to 11:51 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 717-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 717-13\n\nDate: May 2, 1972\nTime: 11:50-11:51 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Alexander P. Butterfield and Stephen B. Bull.\n\n      J. Edgar Hoover\n           -White House flag\n           -Clyde A. Tolson\n\n      Next meeting\n           -Attendees\n                -Henry A. Kissinger\n\nButterfield and Bull left at 11:51 am.\n\n[IN NUMBERING CONVERSATIONS, THE NUMBER \"14\" WAS INADVERTANTLY\nSKIPPED]","filename":["717-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:54:54","tapeEnd":"00:57:30","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Butterfield, Alexander P.","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"717-012","nextCode":"717-015","transcript":[{"start":1.57,"end":4.49,"text":"I've done a sure load of wireless flight duty."},{"start":4.55,"end":5.25,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":5.27,"end":5.63,"text":"That's it."},{"start":5.67,"end":6.29,"text":"Give it to Tulsa."},{"start":6.51,"end":11.84,"text":"If you had the right sign, I would give it to Tulsa."},{"start":12.12,"end":15.46,"text":"Client, Tulsa."},{"start":15.56,"end":18.76,"text":"As soon as that danger is here, we'll get out of here."},{"start":21.22,"end":22.95,"text":"That's an extra table."},{"start":22.96,"end":25.39,"text":"I'm going to screw it right out on your side."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met briefly with aides Alexander P. Butterfield and Stephen B. Bull to address logistical matters following the death of FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover. The discussion touched upon the ceremonial handling of the White House flag and the arrangement of materials to be provided to Clyde Tolson. The participants also briefly coordinated upcoming scheduling requirements for Henry Kissinger.","topics":["J. Edgar Hoover","Clyde Tolson","White House logistics","Flag protocol","Henry Kissinger"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T03:11:27.155Z"},"topicSlugs":["j-edgar-hoover","clyde-tolson","white-house-logistics","flag-protocol","henry-kissinger"],"audioDurationSec":33,"audioFiles":[{"file":"717-013.mp3","bytes":1319493,"durationSec":32.85,"bitrate":321372,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.687Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/717-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/717-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/717/conversation-717-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}