{"conversationCode":"718-005","tapeNumber":718,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-718-005","startDateTime":"1972-05-03T14:50:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-03T14:54:00.000Z","startDate":"3-May-1972","startTime":"10:50 AM","endDate":"3-May-1972","endTime":"10:54 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ehrlichman, John D.;","description":"On May 3, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:50 am and 10:54 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 718-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 718-5\n\nDate: May 3, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 10:50 and 10:54 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President talked with John D. Ehrlichman.\n\n     White House correspondents\n          -Children\n               -Number attending public schools","filename":["718a.mp3","718b.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:58:54","tapeEnd":"01:02:17","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ehrlichman, John D."],"prevCode":"718-004","nextCode":"718-006","tapeTranscriptFile":"718a.mp3,718b.mp3","transcript":[{"start":3542.1,"end":3562.01,"text":"but if you could have the whole thing on that you can't say that would be good you could say out of it we've made the surveys that's made out of the 800 members of the white house correspondents in other words you remember how they can't prove disproved there are only eight that have sent their choice of district schools yeah well"},{"start":3725.59,"end":3727.21,"text":"There seems to be some confusion on this."},{"start":3727.23,"end":3728.45,"text":"I can't do the fire."},{"start":3729.23,"end":3731.66,"text":"Of course."},{"start":3731.7,"end":3732.54,"text":"You understand why."},{"start":3732.76,"end":3734.14,"text":"There's a funeral, isn't there?"},{"start":3734.18,"end":3734.5,"text":"Yes, there is."},{"start":3734.52,"end":3735.78,"text":"Well, if I say, Jolly, what can I do about it?"},{"start":3735.8,"end":3737.02,"text":"She'll speak to her husband and call him."},{"start":3737.52,"end":3739.3,"text":"She hasn't had a chance."},{"start":3739.54,"end":3740.6,"text":"She hasn't had a chance to pray."},{"start":3740.62,"end":3741.4,"text":"Yeah, since God made this."},{"start":3741.48,"end":3742.5,"text":"Let's not do it at all."},{"start":3742.52,"end":3744.28,"text":"I'm sure that's being changed out there."},{"start":3744.3,"end":3746.02,"text":"Just haven't had a chance to pray."},{"start":3746.16,"end":3753.13,"text":"And then we didn't, uh..."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":3536.375,"end":3755,"startMethod":"silence+findingaid","endMethod":"silence"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and John Ehrlichman discuss public messaging strategies regarding the school enrollment choices of White House correspondents. They deliberate on how to frame survey data to minimize controversy, while also addressing scheduling conflicts related to a funeral. Ultimately, the President decides to abandon a specific plan of action to avoid potential political friction.","topics":["White House Press Corps","Public School Enrollment","Public Relations","Crisis Management","Scheduling"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T03:12:29.620Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-press-corps","public-school-enrollment","public-relations","crisis-management","scheduling"],"audioDurationSec":203,"audioFiles":[{"file":"718a.mp3","bytes":175684544,"durationSec":7320.14,"bitrate":192001,"missing":false},{"file":"718b.mp3","bytes":63001076,"durationSec":2624.97,"bitrate":192005,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":true,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.687Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/718a.mp3","https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/718b.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/718-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/718/conversation-718-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}