{"conversationCode":"718-012","tapeNumber":718,"conversationNumber":12,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-718-012","startDateTime":"1972-05-03T16:18:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-03T16:35:00.000Z","startDate":"3-May-1972","startTime":"12:18 PM","endDate":"3-May-1972","endTime":"12:35 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Sanchez, Manolo; Woods, Rose Mary;","description":"On May 3, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Manolo Sanchez, and Rose Mary Woods met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:18 pm and 12:35 pm. 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(“Nellie”) Connally\n\n     Decanter\n\n     Letter to Cyrus R. Smith\n          -Copy to Connally\n\n                                   (rev. Dec-01)\n\n     -Gratitude for decanter\n           -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon\n           -Connally\n           -Commemoration of previous World's Fair\n           -Nixon Library\n\nLetters to President from Mrs. John Connally III's class\n     -President's letter of appreciation\n            -Postscript\n                 -The President’s and Mrs. Nixon's visit to Connally ranch\n\nAdele (Langston) Rogers St. Johns's telephone call to Woods\n     -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman\n     -President's statement upon J. Edgar Hoover's death\n     -Previous trip by President to Florida\n     -Gridiron Dinner\n           -President's appearance with John F. Kennedy\n     -Hoover's statement about the President\n\nLetter to Miriam Summerfield\n     -Form\n     -President's call\n           -[Arthur E. Summerfield]\n\nLetter to Senator Abraham A. Ribicoff\n     -Other form of condolence\n\nDecanter\n    -Location\n         -Stephen B. Bull\n    -John Connally\n    -Sanford L. Fox\n    -Description\n\nHoover\n    -President's eulogy\n          -Location\n                -Warren E. Burger\n    -President's statement upon Hoover's death\n    -Eulogy\n          -Preparation\n\n                                       (rev. Dec-01)\n\n     Julie Nixon Eisenhower\n           -Location\n\n     Temperature in Oval Office\n\n     President's schedule\n\n     Sanchez\n          -Forthcoming knee operation\n                -Recovery time\n\nSanchez entered at an unknown time after 12:19 pm.\n\n     Weather\n\nThe President, Woods and Sanchez left at 12:35 pm.","filename":["718a.mp3","718b.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:26:18","tapeEnd":"02:43:00","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Sanchez, Manolo","Woods, Rose Mary"],"prevCode":"718-011","nextCode":"718-013","tapeTranscriptFile":"718a.mp3,718b.mp3","transcript":[{"start":8899.94,"end":8900.86,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":8900.88,"end":8902.42,"text":"What they do now?"},{"start":8902.6,"end":8902.42,"text":"."},{"start":8902.62,"end":8902.42,"text":". ."},{"start":8926.95,"end":8931.97,"text":"And they said they'd take out the fluid and they put it in the vessel."},{"start":8932.03,"end":8932.51,"text":"It was good."},{"start":8932.65,"end":8933.23,"text":"It had nothing."},{"start":8933.25,"end":8933.71,"text":"It was pure."},{"start":8933.83,"end":8935.39,"text":"It didn't have any kind of bad bacteria."},{"start":8935.43,"end":8936.55,"text":"And everything was good."},{"start":8936.59,"end":8937.89,"text":"And when are they going to operate?"},{"start":8937.91,"end":8938.55,"text":"10 weeks, sir."},{"start":8938.57,"end":8941.95,"text":"How long will you be out of action?"},{"start":8942.17,"end":8942.55,"text":"How much?"},{"start":8943.11,"end":8945.59,"text":"Five or six weeks, sir."},{"start":8945.64,"end":8947.66,"text":"Five or six weeks in the hospital?"},{"start":8947.67,"end":8948.86,"text":"No, in the hospital, seven days."},{"start":8948.98,"end":8950.84,"text":"And after in drugs, about three or four weeks."},{"start":8951.62,"end":8953,"text":"And two or three things."},{"start":8954.43,"end":8956.99,"text":"Take me to me it is, if you prefer."},{"start":8957.33,"end":8958.35,"text":"Twisted cabinets."},{"start":8960.59,"end":8962.89,"text":"Well, that's OK. Can't you just drive me?"},{"start":8963.69,"end":8964.74,"text":"Yes, sir, I can."},{"start":8964.77,"end":8967.18,"text":"How do you know that?"},{"start":8967.2,"end":8969.06,"text":"Yeah, he's a trucker."},{"start":9139.36,"end":9145.22,"text":"I was going to ask you about that beautiful decanter."},{"start":9147.38,"end":9150.91,"text":"It's in my office right now."},{"start":9151.01,"end":9153.93,"text":"I would say that CR's semester"},{"start":9198.35,"end":9209.47,"text":"uh, for the, uh, presentation made, uh, to us, uh, uh, of the, uh, Magnificent Begannery."},{"start":9209.49,"end":9224.35,"text":"That was called the, uh, the finished exhibition of the, uh, the finished exhibit of the, uh, the finished exhibit of the Magnificent Begannery."},{"start":9228.32,"end":9228.84,"text":"I'm real scared."},{"start":9228.9,"end":9229.54,"text":"I'm sure I'll get this one."},{"start":9264.53,"end":9265.38,"text":"Very smart."},{"start":9314.56,"end":9317.04,"text":"Also, when we were there, I exposed them to Steve Rivers with his friend."},{"start":9317.06,"end":9319.4,"text":"They commonly got our mom as a teacher in the first and second grade class, wrote letters."},{"start":9319.42,"end":9320.24,"text":"She gave me a package."},{"start":9341.17,"end":9347.12,"text":"Did you see the very nice letters prepared by some of the students that are here?"},{"start":9347.96,"end":9357.5,"text":"This is also a case of fellow members of the class that are waiting in line for any of their conferences."},{"start":9358.1,"end":9364.63,"text":"It's certainly a fine tribute to their teachers, you know, or something like that."},{"start":9364.65,"end":9366.29,"text":"I think they got over it straightforward."},{"start":9366.31,"end":9366.67,"text":"Yes, they did."},{"start":9372.52,"end":9373.34,"text":"And then the PS was the next in line."},{"start":9373.36,"end":9377.81,"text":"We're going to need to drive our visit to Conner Ranch, particularly because it was not wanted to know that the other members, the younger members of"},{"start":9401.68,"end":9411.13,"text":"Bob said that you had a problem with that one."},{"start":9411.27,"end":9422.45,"text":"I said you had something you wanted to talk about."},{"start":9422.53,"end":9423.67,"text":"Oh yes, I heard about it."},{"start":9423.75,"end":9428.42,"text":"I didn't think I needed to answer that couple, but that one was the... You didn't talk about it."},{"start":9429.48,"end":9434.18,"text":"She called yesterday when she had heard your statement on the air."},{"start":9434.22,"end":9436.3,"text":"She thought it was very eloquent and beautiful."},{"start":9436.32,"end":9439.12,"text":"This was right after you gave it in the morning."},{"start":9439.16,"end":9442.57,"text":"And of course she knew it, you know, very well."},{"start":9442.89,"end":9443.97,"text":"She felt very deep with it."},{"start":9444.62,"end":9447.59,"text":"She said that one time he told her about it."},{"start":9447.63,"end":9457.43,"text":"She knows what he said to her about you, but the fact was that he came back from Florida with you for some dinner that she thought it was you and Kennedy had to go to."},{"start":9459.49,"end":9462.07,"text":"He come down to Florida and come back with you for dinner?"},{"start":9464.92,"end":9466.24,"text":"Well, she didn't go in a year."},{"start":9466.28,"end":9473.42,"text":"But at any rate, what he said to her after this, it sounded like it might have been that he had to go to the grid out of dinner."},{"start":9473.44,"end":9477.67,"text":"You didn't go to the grid out of dinner, Lawrence Kennedy was the president, did you?"},{"start":9477.7,"end":9479.67,"text":"It was something that you and Kennedy had to appear at."},{"start":9480.81,"end":9481.73,"text":"And he said to her,"},{"start":9483.15,"end":9484.87,"text":"Well, I never had any children."},{"start":9484.91,"end":9487.09,"text":"I've got it down in a second."},{"start":9487.13,"end":9490.31,"text":"Because I didn't feel I could make them hostages to my job."},{"start":9491.59,"end":9496.83,"text":"But if I could have had, or if I had had a son, I wish it could have been Dick Nixon."},{"start":9498.9,"end":9502.64,"text":"And she was so, you know, she thought that was very, very true."},{"start":9503.02,"end":9505.28,"text":"I've got it all."},{"start":9505.38,"end":9506.32,"text":"I've typed it out."},{"start":9508.46,"end":9510.97,"text":"Then there's a letter I read that they wrote to, uh,"},{"start":9511.96,"end":9515.54,"text":"Mrs. Somerfield, do you want to send a typed letter to her at all?"},{"start":9515.6,"end":9517.66,"text":"He sent flowers, you know, and he sent stamps."},{"start":9518.56,"end":9519.62,"text":"I could bring it if it's art."},{"start":9519.64,"end":9520.42,"text":"You could put an art on it."},{"start":9520.44,"end":9525.79,"text":"I don't really think it's necessary."},{"start":9525.81,"end":9526.13,"text":"Well, uh..."},{"start":9526.15,"end":9526.53,"text":"I'll look at it."},{"start":9526.55,"end":9527.97,"text":"Oh, it should be a wine letter."},{"start":9527.99,"end":9528.71,"text":"It might as well be."},{"start":9528.79,"end":9529.19,"text":"I know her."},{"start":9529.25,"end":9530.37,"text":"I know you did before he died."},{"start":9530.73,"end":9533.62,"text":"And, uh, so I said, dear Marion, it's a good 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going to do the one at the church, aren't you?"},{"start":9615.25,"end":9615.43,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":9615.47,"end":9617.77,"text":"Are they going to have one in the cabin?"},{"start":9617.83,"end":9621.92,"text":"I understand they're having one that Berger sent to us."},{"start":9621.94,"end":9624.12,"text":"That's what one of the girls out there told me they heard on the radio."},{"start":9634.68,"end":9637.63,"text":"I thought your statement yesterday was just really great."},{"start":9638.03,"end":9656.54,"text":"Just wonderful."},{"start":9656.56,"end":9659.1,"text":"I hope we get something out of your work out too much."},{"start":9659.12,"end":9659.38,"text":"I hope so."},{"start":9659.42,"end":9662.9,"text":"Well, there's been so much printed and being said on the radio and everything that say you ought to be in a different town."},{"start":9664.41,"end":9667.3,"text":"Yeah, there was a lot of background on them, and they didn't feel 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