{"conversationCode":"719-016","tapeNumber":719,"conversationNumber":16,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-719-016","startDateTime":"1972-05-04T16:47:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-04T16:49:00.000Z","startDate":"4-May-1972","startTime":"12:47 PM","endDate":"4-May-1972","endTime":"12:49 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On May 4, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:47 pm and 12:49 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 719-016 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 719-16\n\nDate: May 4, 1972\nTime: Unknown after 12:47 pm and before 12:49 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n     President's schedule\n\n                                        (rev. Jan-02)\n\n           -Meeting with Frank E. Fitzsimmons\n           -Meeting with Nellie L. Yates\n           -Meeting with Fitzsimmons\n                -Instructions for Charles W. Colson\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 12:49 pm.","filename":["719a.mp3","719b.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:46:54","tapeEnd":"02:48:32","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"719-015","nextCode":"719-017","tapeTranscriptFile":"719a.mp3,719b.mp3","transcript":[{"start":10023.31,"end":10026.03,"text":"I don't think you'll have to come up this weekend."},{"start":10026.08,"end":10027.58,"text":"I'm afraid I'm gonna be just too mad to see you."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":10010,"end":10083.75,"startMethod":"silence","endMethod":"silence"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his aide Stephen B. Bull to coordinate his daily schedule and manage upcoming appointments. The discussion focused on logistics for meetings with Frank E. Fitzsimmons and Nellie L. Yates. Additionally, Nixon provided specific instructions for Bull to relay to Charles W. Colson.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Frank E. Fitzsimmons","Charles W. Colson","White House staff coordination"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T03:14:52.850Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","frank-e-fitzsimmons","charles-w-colson","white-house-staff-coordination"],"audioDurationSec":98,"audioFiles":[{"file":"719a.mp3","bytes":175539721,"durationSec":7314.1,"bitrate":192001,"missing":false},{"file":"719b.mp3","bytes":162858630,"durationSec":6785.7,"bitrate":192002,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":true,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.687Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/719a.mp3","https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/719b.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/719-016","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/719/conversation-719-016","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}