{"conversationCode":"719-020","tapeNumber":719,"conversationNumber":20,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-719-020","startDateTime":"1972-05-04T17:21:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-04T17:24:00.000Z","startDate":"4-May-1972","startTime":"1:21 PM","endDate":"4-May-1972","endTime":"1:24 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On May 4, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:21 pm and 1:24 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 719-020 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 719-20\n\nDate: May 4, 1972\nTime: 1:21 pm - unknown before 1:24 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n     Gifts\n             -Gratitude of International Brotherhood of Teamsters\n\n           -Cost\n\n     President's schedule\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 1:24 pm.","filename":["719a.mp3","719b.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:20:27","tapeEnd":"03:21:35","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"719-019","nextCode":"719-021","tapeTranscriptFile":"719a.mp3,719b.mp3","transcript":[{"start":12015,"end":12019.75,"text":"For your wives, this is the presidential ashtray."},{"start":12019.97,"end":12021.97,"text":"It has a seal on it."},{"start":12022.05,"end":12024.79,"text":"Actually, it's very indestructible."},{"start":12024.91,"end":12025.55,"text":"Use it."},{"start":12025.81,"end":12029.24,"text":"For you folks, this is a little thing that we got."},{"start":12031.19,"end":12034.65,"text":"What's the nomination?"},{"start":12034.73,"end":12035.95,"text":"Switch play?"},{"start":12035.97,"end":12036.59,"text":"Switch play?"},{"start":12036.65,"end":12056.25,"text":"No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no."},{"start":12059.49,"end":12065.26,"text":"All right, I'm going to play with our friends on Saturday."},{"start":12065.34,"end":12070.86,"text":"So I'm going to tell them how to get up."},{"start":12070.94,"end":12074.14,"text":"You were telling me that you had a real long butt."},{"start":12074.16,"end":12087.11,"text":"No, when you get one that you know you can't make about 30 feet out, you said, Jim, I'm sorry, but the president told me that on this boat, you were to give me the butt."},{"start":12097,"end":12098.75,"text":"I was able to help you."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":12015,"end":12098.75,"startMethod":"silence","endMethod":"silence"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Stephen B. Bull to discuss the distribution of presidential gifts, including ashtrays, intended for the International Brotherhood of Teamsters. They briefly touched upon the logistics and costs associated with these tokens of appreciation. The discussion also involved lighthearted personal exchanges regarding the President's upcoming weekend recreational plans.","topics":["Presidential gifts","International Brotherhood of Teamsters","White House logistics","President's schedule"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T03:15:15.818Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-gifts","international-brotherhood-of-teamsters","white-house-logistics","presidents-schedule"],"audioDurationSec":68,"audioFiles":[{"file":"719a.mp3","bytes":175539721,"durationSec":7314.1,"bitrate":192001,"missing":false},{"file":"719b.mp3","bytes":162858630,"durationSec":6785.7,"bitrate":192002,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":true,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:55.376Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:22.194Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/719a.mp3","https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/719b.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/719-020","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/719/conversation-719-020","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}