{"conversationCode":"719-021","tapeNumber":719,"conversationNumber":21,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-719-021","startDateTime":"1972-05-04T17:21:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-04T17:24:00.000Z","startDate":"4-May-1972","startTime":"1:21 PM","endDate":"4-May-1972","endTime":"1:24 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Butterfield, Alexander P.;","description":"On May 4, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:21 pm and 1:24 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 719-021 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 719-21\n\nDate: May 4, 1972\nTime: Unknown after 1:21 pm and before 1:24 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Alexander P. Butterfield.\n\n     President's schedule\n          -Meeting with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman\n                 -Location\n                 -Executive Office Building [EOB]\n          -L[ouis] Patrick Gray, III announcement\n          -Meeting with Ronald L. Ziegler\n\nButterfield left at an unknown time before 1:24 pm.","filename":["719a.mp3","719b.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:21:35","tapeEnd":"03:22:53","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Butterfield, Alexander P."],"prevCode":"719-020","nextCode":"719-022","tapeTranscriptFile":"719a.mp3,719b.mp3","transcript":[{"start":12098.75,"end":12100.08,"text":"I was able to help you."},{"start":12100.16,"end":12106.63,"text":"Sure, it's a great following."},{"start":12106.91,"end":12108.59,"text":"I appreciate it."},{"start":12108.73,"end":12115.04,"text":"And don't worry, we take care of these comments."},{"start":12119.85,"end":12120.77,"text":"All right, thank you."},{"start":12120.87,"end":12121.29,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":12121.83,"end":12122.33,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":12122.37,"end":12122.55,"text":"Bye."},{"start":12122.75,"end":12122.89,"text":"Bye."},{"start":12122.93,"end":12123.99,"text":"See you later."},{"start":12145.21,"end":12148.11,"text":"Oh, we should get rid of the stuff around here, don't we?"},{"start":12148.41,"end":12150.79,"text":"Yes, sir, but it's a lot of mileage."},{"start":12150.81,"end":12151.85,"text":"They just think you do."},{"start":12152.31,"end":12153.33,"text":"They do love me."},{"start":12153.39,"end":12154.79,"text":"Take a moment to watch."},{"start":12156.77,"end":12157.61,"text":"They're just a banger."},{"start":12157.92,"end":12161.86,"text":"Well, Denise Montana makes a bargain that makes about $4.00 and $4.00 and $0.35."},{"start":12162.26,"end":12167.82,"text":"People hesitate even to put a cigarette out and put it out of display."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":12098.75,"end":12177.375,"startMethod":"silence","endMethod":"silence"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield held a brief, informal meeting in the Oval Office to coordinate the President's upcoming schedule and administrative logistics. The discussion touched upon the scheduling of meetings with H.R. Haldeman and Ronald Ziegler, as well as the timing of an announcement regarding L. Patrick Gray III. The participants also briefly exchanged remarks concerning public perception and the management of office materials.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","H.R. Haldeman","L. Patrick Gray III","White House operations","Public relations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T03:15:21.554Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","h-r-haldeman","l-patrick-gray-iii","white-house-operations","public-relations"],"audioDurationSec":78,"audioFiles":[{"file":"719a.mp3","bytes":175539721,"durationSec":7314.1,"bitrate":192001,"missing":false},{"file":"719b.mp3","bytes":162858630,"durationSec":6785.7,"bitrate":192002,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":true,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.687Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/719a.mp3","https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/719b.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/719-021","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/719/conversation-719-021","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}