{"conversationCode":"720-008","tapeNumber":720,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-720-008","startDateTime":"1972-05-05T16:09:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-05T16:15:00.000Z","startDate":"5-May-1972","startTime":"12:09 PM","endDate":"5-May-1972","endTime":"12:15 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Latta, Delbert L.; Springer, Delbert; Nidecker, John E.; Springer, Jill; White House photographer;","description":"On May 5, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Delbert L. Latta, Delbert Springer, John E. Nidecker, Jill Springer, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:09 pm to 12:15 pm. 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Nidecker; the White House photographer was present at the beginning of the\nmeeting.\n\n     Greetings\n          -Latta\n          -Springer\n          -Mrs. Springer\n          -Miss Springer\n\n     Photographs\n\n     Springer's woodcarving\n          -The President’s praise\n          -Time spent\n\n     Photographs\n          -Arrangement\n\n     Wood\n\n                                         (rev. Jan-02)\n\n              -Type and amount used\n\n      Springer's hometown\n           -Size\n           -Small-town America\n                 -The President’s view\n           -Latta\n                 -The President’s view\n                 -Support for the President\n\n      Gifts\n              -Cuff links\n              -Bow\n              -Ashtray\n\n      Jill Springer\n            -First name\n            -Request for President's autograph\n                  -For Jill\n                  -For Rose Ellen\n            -Gift of pen\n\n      White House tour\n\n      Goodbyes\n          -Latta\n\nLatta, et al., left at 12:15 pm.","filename":["720a.mp3","720b.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:56:29","tapeEnd":"02:02:00","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Latta, Delbert L.","Springer, Delbert","Nidecker, John E.","Springer, Jill","White House photographer"],"prevCode":"720-007","nextCode":"720-009","tapeTranscriptFile":"720a.mp3,720b.mp3","transcript":[{"start":7057.47,"end":7058.62,"text":"How big is your town?"},{"start":7058.65,"end":7062.61,"text":"The town of Ann Worth"},{"start":7085.01,"end":7085.37,"text":"That's great."},{"start":7086.27,"end":7086.81,"text":"I'm all for it."},{"start":7086.87,"end":7088.89,"text":"I grew up in a town called ."},{"start":7088.97,"end":7091.59,"text":"What's now 100,000, but over 12,000 years, I grew up 12,000 times."},{"start":7091.73,"end":7092.71,"text":"Little college."},{"start":7092.75,"end":7102.99,"text":"But there are great people out there in the small towns of America."},{"start":7103.13,"end":7109.48,"text":"Of course, Lattice is a little liberal down here."},{"start":7110.83,"end":7111.25,"text":"He's great."},{"start":7111.27,"end":7113.49,"text":"I just want you to know he's a strong man."},{"start":7113.55,"end":7117.12,"text":"He's always there when things are tough here in Congress."},{"start":7117.32,"end":7125.97,"text":"And we'd be proud to have that kind of manner."},{"start":7128.66,"end":7130.06,"text":"He doesn't need to say that."},{"start":7130.08,"end":7132.06,"text":"He always wins, but he won't say it."},{"start":7132.08,"end":7132.74,"text":"Not quite."},{"start":7132.78,"end":7133.32,"text":"Not quite."},{"start":7133.36,"end":7133.88,"text":"That's right."},{"start":7133.92,"end":7134.92,"text":"He's not going to say it."},{"start":7135.66,"end":7137.64,"text":"Now, we have a little present for you."},{"start":7137.7,"end":7138.88,"text":"Not much."},{"start":7138.96,"end":7141.62,"text":"Here's a seal and a compliment."},{"start":7141.66,"end":7142.56,"text":"Are you a compliment?"},{"start":7142.58,"end":7143,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":7143.08,"end":7143.4,"text":"Very good."},{"start":7143.5,"end":7144.7,"text":"And you get compliments."},{"start":7144.76,"end":7145.42,"text":"You've got another one."},{"start":7145.46,"end":7146.42,"text":"Now, you've got one already."},{"start":7146.84,"end":7149.94,"text":"Here's a seal and a bow for you to wear to church."},{"start":7149.96,"end":7151.28,"text":"Oh, thank you."},{"start":7151.32,"end":7154.98,"text":"It's not an expensive thing, but it's a little..."},{"start":7155.12,"end":7157.48,"text":"I'm very proud of you, man."},{"start":7159.68,"end":7168.49,"text":"I think, you know, because of all the work they've done, that you have one of our main careers."},{"start":7168.51,"end":7168.65,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":7168.73,"end":7171.27,"text":"I don't know if you smoke or not."},{"start":7171.35,"end":7171.45,"text":"I do."},{"start":7171.49,"end":7172.59,"text":"We have a presidential ashtray."},{"start":7172.73,"end":7176.01,"text":"We can't get many of these because they're all on the stage."},{"start":7176.11,"end":7177.93,"text":"But I think that because of that work..."},{"start":7179.69,"end":7180.59,"text":"I'll show you what it is."},{"start":7181.07,"end":7181.91,"text":"Here's the package."},{"start":7182.69,"end":7184.27,"text":"Here's the white."},{"start":7184.8,"end":7186.32,"text":"And here's what it is."},{"start":7186.34,"end":7189.58,"text":"It's the seal of the signature."},{"start":7189.66,"end":7189.88,"text":"Yes, it is."},{"start":7190,"end":7196.68,"text":"So that's for George, the folks in Van Werten."},{"start":7196.7,"end":7196.94,"text":"Arrested?"},{"start":7197.56,"end":7197.84,"text":"Arrested."},{"start":7198,"end":7198.69,"text":"Put it there."},{"start":7199.73,"end":7202.83,"text":"Better nail it down."},{"start":7203.11,"end":7203.31,"text":"Arrested."},{"start":7206.88,"end":7211.71,"text":"She wanted to know if she'd have your autograph."},{"start":7226.94,"end":7227.37,"text":"Oh, you did?"},{"start":7227.45,"end":7228.35,"text":"What's your first name?"},{"start":7228.39,"end":7228.47,"text":"Jill."},{"start":7228.51,"end":7230.43,"text":"Honey, you heard Jill."},{"start":7230.45,"end":7230.83,"text":"That's right."},{"start":7231.15,"end":7233.68,"text":"You said Roselle."},{"start":7234.52,"end":7235.72,"text":"That's your daughter."},{"start":7265.76,"end":7266.32,"text":"Stationary."},{"start":7266.6,"end":7268.28,"text":"Rose, Ellen, two names or what?"},{"start":7268.3,"end":7268.44,"text":"Ellen."},{"start":7268.6,"end":7270.5,"text":"Two names, Rose and Ellen."},{"start":7271.22,"end":7279.32,"text":"You guys are terrible at this."},{"start":7279.68,"end":7284.98,"text":"You have to summon a boss to do this."},{"start":7285.02,"end":7287.12,"text":"You don't have to do this."},{"start":7287.16,"end":7289.08,"text":"You just need to manage the cars."},{"start":7289.1,"end":7290.94,"text":"You need to do this."},{"start":7296.84,"end":7297.7,"text":"Hey, sir, I appreciate it."},{"start":7297.8,"end":7298.4,"text":"Now, let's see."},{"start":7298.44,"end":7299.76,"text":"This is the right thing for you."},{"start":7299.8,"end":7303.78,"text":"Let's give you a little country sign for it."},{"start":7305.01,"end":7306.79,"text":"How would you like that?"},{"start":7306.81,"end":7307.17,"text":"For you."},{"start":7307.21,"end":7307.79,"text":"That's great."},{"start":7307.81,"end":7308.47,"text":"I'll put it in my box."},{"start":7308.51,"end":7310.61,"text":"Have a look at the search."},{"start":7313.73,"end":7314.99,"text":"All right."},{"start":7315.37,"end":7315.95,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":7316.19,"end":7317.37,"text":"Goodbye and good luck."},{"start":7318.47,"end":7319.21,"text":"We wish you the best."},{"start":7319.79,"end":7322.85,"text":"We wish you the best."},{"start":7322.9,"end":7323.85,"text":"Thank you all."},{"start":7324.52,"end":7326.08,"text":"We'll be looking forward to that."},{"start":7326.12,"end":7326.38,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":7326.42,"end":7327.8,"text":"You're 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