{"conversationCode":"720-011","tapeNumber":720,"conversationNumber":11,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-720-011","startDateTime":"1972-05-05T16:18:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-05T16:19:00.000Z","startDate":"5-May-1972","startTime":"12:18 PM","endDate":"5-May-1972","endTime":"12:19 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On May 5, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:18 pm and 12:19 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 720-011 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 720-11\n\n                                          (rev. Jan-02)\nDate: May 5, 1972\nTime: Unknown after 12:18 and before 12:19 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n     President's meeting with John D. Rockefeller III group\n          -Length\n                 -Kenneth R. Cole, Jr.\n          -Seating\n          -Refreshments\n          -Length\n          -Seating\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 12:19 pm.","filename":["720a.mp3","720b.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:05:15","tapeEnd":"02:06:23","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"720-010","nextCode":"720-012","tapeTranscriptFile":"720a.mp3,720b.mp3","transcript":[{"start":7515,"end":7515.39,"text":"Well, finally, after 11 months or a few"},{"start":7541.77,"end":7541.81,"text":"No."},{"start":7541.83,"end":7541.87,"text":"No."},{"start":7541.89,"end":7541.93,"text":"No."},{"start":7571.35,"end":7572.81,"text":"He is, by the way."},{"start":7572.85,"end":7574.06,"text":"He's one of the great photographers."},{"start":7574.1,"end":7574.31,"text":"Oh, yeah."},{"start":7574.38,"end":7576.4,"text":"He's a great photographer."},{"start":7576.44,"end":7576.65,"text":"What's that?"},{"start":7576.69,"end":7577.19,"text":"He uses both."},{"start":7577.26,"end":7579.6,"text":"He uses, he has, they look a little like they come in his camera."},{"start":7579.64,"end":7580.6,"text":"People are real close."},{"start":7580.64,"end":7581.12,"text":"That's right."},{"start":7581.18,"end":7581.42,"text":"He's a..."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":7515,"end":7583,"startMethod":"tape_time","endMethod":"tape_time"},"transcriptConfidence":"low","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to finalize logistical arrangements for an upcoming meeting with a group led by John D. Rockefeller III. The discussion focused on administrative details including the duration of the session, seating arrangements, and the provision of refreshments. Kenneth R. Cole, Jr. was identified as a key participant involved in the coordination of these preparations.","topics":["John D. Rockefeller III","Event Planning","White House Administration","Kenneth R. Cole Jr.","Oval Office protocol"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T03:16:35.075Z"},"topicSlugs":["john-d-rockefeller-iii","event-planning","white-house-administration","kenneth-r-cole-jr","oval-office-protocol"],"audioDurationSec":68,"audioFiles":[{"file":"720a.mp3","bytes":176387969,"durationSec":7349.43,"bitrate":192001,"missing":false},{"file":"720b.mp3","bytes":152406307,"durationSec":6350.19,"bitrate":192002,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":true,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.687Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/720a.mp3","https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/720b.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/720-011","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/720/conversation-720-011","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}