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Now, let's see, we've got a little gimmick for you here.

See, you've got a pair of cups on your shoulders.

That's your tie.

I mean, you've got to wear a tie.

And these are the bows for each of you.

Oh, I'm sorry.

That's right.

You have one already.

You can give it to a friend.

That's the seal.

There's the seal.

There's always a way to stop it.

That's right.

So there it is.

That's the seal.

So that's your badge being in the White House.

Thank you.

We wish you the best.

We appreciate it all along.

I was going to release it.

Get everybody back on the stuff.

I mean, you know, they're going to start chatting.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

Goodbye.

Okay, so it's time to make sure we chill for five minutes.

John Rockefeller and that group of people are going to meet soon, so a little bit longer.

Okay, I'll just let it be, I'll set it up.

How are you?

Good to see you.

I just had a meeting with your brother.

So now we have this room.

Yes, how are you?

How are you?

Why don't we have a quick picture first and then we'll sit down and have a chat.

Over here, let's see.

You and your dad have to go in here and do the other stuff.

How's that?

Here's one.

All you have to do is show us your face.

He said, here.

And shoot a picture of our city, too.

We're going to need copies of these.

So you can prove to me that we're talking to each other.

I don't speak for the first time, but I'm sure you do.

It's good.

You're talking about his new friend, Father Hester.

Oh, yes, yes.

He's a very tall man.

Aren't you, then?

Yeah.

I often tell him, back in the days, I spoke to him.

Father Hester and Father Joyce, who is a successor there, too.

My, my, my.

You have finished your work.

Let me say, I had a...

I want you to be sure to tell Mrs. Chandler that you're talking to me, because she was here with the end of this, and she said, I want you to be sure that...

I want you to be sure that...

the important

I think that you were all already aware of this.

As you know, he started this with the message.

It was the first time the president had read this bullet.

And it's written in that.

It was a pretty good message, actually.

I've got to give one hand.

What's the credit for it?

He did a lot of writing.

Pat, my hand.

Is that right?

Yes, sir.

Pat did the work.

And that was his major trust.

He just felt so strongly on this subject.

And we're working on the, having started, there's one area that is, as you know, extremely delicate and sensitive.

Where, like, I have taken a position which will differ from the commission's recommendation, and that is in the portion area.

But this is a matter which, of course, everybody will understand.

I mean, because you'll have within your own commission,

The main trust should be that as far as the goal is concerned, the goal of getting a, that I set forth in that message to the Congress, the population commission and the administration are working toward the same goal.

We may have some disagreement about means.

And of course, we're about to take this senator to the budget, the mayor to the budget, and all the rest, and get the AGW and all the other agencies to give their comments.

Congress will take it from here to me.

It's not an ad.

Everybody says what you do.

Of course, of course, it should be done.

I can't help you to do it.

But do grab a little bit of what you have presented and what you have done will certainly affect the course of history and the future of this country.

And that should make service on the commission worthwhile.

And as Secretary Richardson pointed out, it's the first time the problem's been approached so broadly in terms of government, in terms of the economy, in terms of resources and pollution, in terms of distribution.

Did you go over to the international situation?

Not at all, really.

You stayed out of that?

That's right.

I didn't.

We made that.

I know you were interested in that problem.

The fact that we have a policy that we're trying maybe in some ways to implement.

You see, you look at some of the terrible law that's facing.

if they would ever break into the center of the country.

There are volunteers in the center of the country for hours as close as the coast, I mean, the west coast.

But basically, the way it's running, congesting these great cities, Rio, Sao Paulo, Buenos Aires, et cetera, et cetera,

Africa is not particularly problematic because it's big and it has lots of rules over the future.

But when you look at India, when you look at China, when you look at, well, of course, the Japanese, you don't worry about that.

They're going to handle it.

They are going to handle it.

And the Chinese are worried about theirs.

India may be desirable.

It may be desirable because of its enormous political power.

While this has got to be in the leadership, we're all working on it.

The Pakistanis, of course, are working on it.

They get more and more aid, and they get poorer and poorer.

But Mrs. Cranston, Mrs. Gandhi never speaks about it in her speeches.

It's really amazing.

She won't tackle it, huh?

No, she believes in it.

Oh, I know.

She really believes in it, but not consider it.

Mr. Brennan, let me just say one thing.

What we are going to do is form a citizen's committee.

All right.

And I was talking to Pat Moynihan.

Bill Graver, if you will.

But Pat Moynihan has agreed to take an active part.

And we talked with Mr. Berlichman, and we'll be in touch with Mr. Richardson, who sits on the left, too.

And I thought we'd be sure that we would work on this in the months ahead, and then maybe at the end of the year, you'd let us come back.

I will.

And maybe have it part of your second term program.

And there's been more time to do that.

You'll have a citizens' commission.

You'll continue your work.

Exactly.

To do follow-up.

Be sure to be at the west coast of Georgia.

Now, this commission was very representative of almost everything.

Now, I think that commission was very well balanced.

And let me say, I honestly think that the younger members under 30 and minority members made a very real contribution to it.

It's a different report because of our being there.

It's good that you brought them in.

I mean, the participation, I mean, actually, the minority members have to participate because it has to do a great deal with all of them.

That's right.

And, you know, it's very tough.

grapple with those folks, because they're part of her establishment.

But here, you're bringing minority members in.

They face some of those problems that they have to deal with.

And the younger members, of course, won't have much of a problem selling that.

Well, they will, right?

They will, perhaps.

That's right.

Because they think, why can't it be done quicker?

But we do want to thank you for your leadership on this, and that message particularly, and thank you for bringing us into being.

It's been a privilege to do this for you and with you.

Right, right.

You've been amazing to us after increasing public donations.

And we will hope then to maybe see you at the end of the year.

At the end of the year, I'd like to see another report on this.

Can you follow?

Yes, sir, I will.

And we'll keep you working on it.

And also, Mr. Richardson, who I .

First class man.

We've got a lot of them.

But he's got so many things on his mind.

All these things.