{"conversationCode":"721-005","tapeNumber":721,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-721-005","startDateTime":"1972-05-08T12:56:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-08T12:59:00.000Z","startDate":"8-May-1972","startTime":"8:56 AM","endDate":"8-May-1972","endTime":"8:59 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On May 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:56 am and 8:59 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 721-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 721-5\n\nDate: May 8, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 8:56 am and 8:59 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with an unknown woman.\n\n     Henry A. Kissinger\n         -Location\n         -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew\n         -Meeting with President\n               -National Security Council [NSC] meeting\n                    -Time\n\nThe unknown woman left at an unknown time before 8:59 am.","filename":["721-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:18:48","tapeEnd":"00:21:17","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"721-004","nextCode":"721-006","transcript":[{"start":0.09,"end":3.57,"text":"Mr. President, those kittens are standing in front of the Vice President."},{"start":3.63,"end":5.41,"text":"They are in the dog-kitten's box."},{"start":7.85,"end":10.55,"text":"Can you interrupt him?"},{"start":10.57,"end":10.63,"text":"No."},{"start":11.07,"end":14.86,"text":"I mean, some of the big benches."},{"start":14.94,"end":16.26,"text":"He better stop by here on his way there."},{"start":16.84,"end":17.68,"text":"Before he goes to the meeting?"},{"start":17.7,"end":17.8,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":18.44,"end":23.44,"text":"The meeting starts at 9 o'clock, so I think he should be very close to being finished."},{"start":23.98,"end":25.88,"text":"Well, we'll see."},{"start":25.92,"end":28.18,"text":"We'll just wait until he gets to the bench."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consults with an unidentified woman regarding the scheduling of a brief meeting with Vice President Spiro Agnew. The primary objective is to intercept the Vice President before he attends a 9:00 a.m. National Security Council meeting. They determine to monitor Agnew's location and wait for his arrival to ensure the unscheduled interaction occurs.","topics":["Spiro Agnew","National Security Council","Scheduling","Presidential meetings"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T03:17:49.314Z"},"topicSlugs":["spiro-agnew","national-security-council","scheduling","presidential-meetings"],"audioDurationSec":31,"audioFiles":[{"file":"721-005.mp3","bytes":1234856,"durationSec":30.72,"bitrate":321543,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.687Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/721-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/721-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/721/conversation-721-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}