Nixon, Annenberg & Mitchell on 1972 Presidential Election and Diplomacy

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Well, here's the ambassador.

President, how are you?

How are you?

Nice to see you.

John, how are you?

Well, there's the work of art.

It is even far more handsome right there, I thought.

I thought it might be a little bigger.

It's absolutely... Look over there.

Look and see.

Look at it.

See...

It's not the diamond, Walter.

And in crystal, a malachite base with gold trim, and I selected out of about 20 drawings done by the human people, and then I narrowed it down to four, and I finally decided that the commander-in-chief, the theme of the commander-in-chief, which you are, with the presidency, was the most appropriate of the ministry.

So there it is.

Sit down, sit down.

Sit down here with all these hot shots.

Tell me what's going on in the world.

I'll tell you how proud I am of you and how...

There's a lot of people who are more excited than I am.

I want to look here.

Get you... What you're working with, the prime ministers.

I don't...

There's John...

There have been some greats sitting in that seat, Walter.

I always point out that I don't feel we've had such famous people as all the prime ministers.

You know who sat there?

Bonnie and Prince Charlie sat there.

He, Wilson.

Don't get too cocky because one of the guys who sat there recently hung as he sat there.

Something happened right there.

That's all right.

I'm sure that Mrs. Gandy sat here also, and that's exactly what ought to happen to her.

She has become accustomed, like Mr. Mintoff, to being successful by abusing people.

It's a bitch.

He is demanding to see the President.

He is demanding that you see him.

Not asking, demanding.

I saw some traffic on that over in the State Department.

I was told that yesterday.

He's demanding that you see him.

He said that it's easier for me to see God than it is to see your President.

Now, this is the most overbearing .

And tell you what I told Peter Terridge in the next, probably sometime in 73, when I return to my private life, I will begin philanthropy in a major way once again.

And one of the things I'm contemplating is the Mentofian society, where I will have

Little coin boxes placed in all the capitals of the world with pictures of Mr. Minkoff on all sides with strings attached.

He's always accusing everybody of doing things with strings attached.

But then I said, Peter, I'm considering appointing you the honorary retirement because you have had such a warm and intimate and happy relationship with Mr. Mintoff.

Peter Kerrigan is a great fellow.

They tie.

Peter Kerrigan is absolutely tops.

I saw him the other night and he said, Walter, I understand you may be out here at the end of the year.

I plead with you, don't go.

As a prime minister, I don't want you ever to go.

He's a wonderful fellow.

He's tall.

No, no, no, he's not.

Reginald Maudlin is rather big.

Willie Whitelaw is big.

White House over there.

The Minister of Defense has also recently become the head of the Conservative Party.

Oh, he's become the head of the Conservative Party, and I suspect that Ted Heath is beginning to downgrade Reginald Maudlin a bit.

I would say that he's being peered as the man being groomed.

Although, Willie Whitebaugh, who's just made Minister of State after Northern Ireland, handled the Ulster's first class.

Willie Whitebaugh's great.

They always give good people.

They always give Ireland.

Now, I have not gone over to Ulster at any time, very specifically, because

indicated to me that their group's ready to give me proclamations to handle the President.

And I'm not about to put myself in a position where I could be handed anything if you've got enough proclamations.

Mr. President, I appreciate this opportunity to see you, but I have a few requests.

I know that you're a gentleman with a long memory, and I

I hope that sometime, when you're in Florida, you will say a few kind words to a man by the name of Mitchell Wilson.

Mitchell Wilson?

Yes, Mitchell Wilson.

Because this man...

Oh, yeah, he's got a channel.

He has a big channel.

Do you know him?

Do I know him?

I got him off the golf course to take his coat off and stick with the Miami Beach Commission.

All right.

I take the liberty, I take the liberty because the minute the vote was over on Milo Beach, he called me on the telephone and he said, Walter, mission accomplished.

You know, the night before it was 5-2, not to invite you, that is, not to invite the Republican convention.

Wilson turned it around again.

That's the reason I take the liberty of bringing that up.

I know that, permit me to say that I observe that you have a light performance, not necessarily conversation.

And I saw Frank Rizzo

before I got on the plane to come down here today.

You were up in Philadelphia?

Yes, that's right.

You didn't come to California?

No, I wasn't to California.

I flew back to London because Bill Rogers was coming for the third in the afternoon of the fourth.

When Bill went on to Brussels, I returned to the States because I hadn't accepted a long weekend engagement with John Gilberth.

Derby Dad, fireman, Kentucky Derby.

So he had about 40 guests, and I was a guest of honor, so it was a commitment.

And I was good when we were out in the open.

That flag is a bit of a stray.

I go back to London Thursday morning.

But... You seem to thrive on it, too.

Well, this... You don't have... May I tell you something?

I've had two...

great inspirations in my life.

They have also provided me with a certain discipline.

Tragedy in the life of my father was a tragedy that would either inspire you or destroy you.

And this has been something of a lash on my back.

Your honoring me with the appointment

has been not only a great inspiration, but a wonderful discipline.

The discipline of representing the President has been a great experience.

I don't know about that, but it has been a great, great experience for me.

Well, we're glad to have you here.

Every time I go to Palm Springs, I think of that place where we made the deal.

Well, I was reluctant because...

I was very reluctant out there at the porch.

I was very reluctant because I told you you had so many problems that I didn't want to add to your problems.

You recall what he had?

Well, I just went to check.

I had it wrong and proved to be wrong.

Well, I know, but once you accept that...

Nothing.

Nothing, but once you accept that...

By God, you better well live up to the discipline of representing the president.

And it's been a tremendous experience.

Now, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee is absolutely great in her job.

And Lee is terribly upset that she will not be there when you earn England for a state visit.

And this breaks her heart.

Now, we've been to Buckingham Palace State back before Hirohito, and recently at Windsor Castle for Queen Juliana.

Now, we're going to Windsor Castle for a buffet supper, Your Majesty.

It's coming Sunday evening.

There's a very attractive character there, Philip Hoffman, head of Johnson & Johnson.

Philip is arriving with

a coached team to compete at the Royal Windsor Horse Show next Sunday.

And he loves to do this.

And he's a very odd individual with a high hat and a cutaway in his gloves.

He's smoking a cigar this long as he does all the turns.

And the Queen thinks he's absolutely great.

He smokes a big cigar while he's driving this

coat, and tea before horses.

You must know Philip Johnson.

This is a great fellow.

Great fellow.

But the Queen gets a great charge.

I mean, he has a marvelous personality.

And I had a message three or four days ago that the Queen wanted me to bring him.

I had to go face supper Sunday night at Windsor Castle.

Oh, he's all excited.

But

I'd like to get back to Philadelphia.

Mr. President, we've got to back Rizzo because this man is, you can go to sleep on this man.

He is going to do everything and anything that he possibly can.

He's called in all the ward leaders.

He's got everything set.

Humphrey, as you may recall, carried from Adelphia by 326,000.

So again, Rizzo says that the city under no circumstances will go democratic by anything greater than 50 to 100,000.

He said that he would guarantee to hold it under $100,000 this time.

Really?

He said that?

Looking at it from the worst, but I'm telling you, I'm, uh, Mr. President, I may be moving back and forth, may there be some criticism that I may be spending a little too much time here, but I view this as my responsibility

This man is my protege, and I've been backing him, and he will, you can go to sleep on this man.

Thank God he won't have the long stress.

Long stress is, I've known Fash for many years, very pleasant, very decent, but with the problems that a major community has, Fash is the equivalent of a well-fed house dog.

No, I'm, no, I'm, I'm, I'm putting a nice, a nice, Fatsch is a great Princeton alumnus with his Argyle socks.

No, no, no.

He really is.

No, really.

He's a nice guy.

I know.

Fatsch is very nice.

And incidentally, his wife, his wife would have been a better candidate.

He's much smarter.

He is.

Fatsch is, oh, now, John, if I could admit to, um,

cynical about this.

That is a well-fed house dog.

I'll tell you, Rizzo was a tiger.

This man is a tiger.

And this man is determined, he wants to be the mayor.

He made a statement to me.

He said, Walter, I want to be mayor here for 20 years.

Really?

He gets on press.

John, I appreciate you're not, don't discuss what I'm talking about.

Senator Scott.

Scott?

Oh, God.

And they keep right on top of it.

You can't be interfered with.

Well, you're absolutely correct.

Nobody has ever said anything.

Except Rizzo keeps calling in our inspector and talking to him.

Now, I'm telling you something.

He wants to elect Inspector Governor as Republican.

They're not close.

Oh, yes.

Ireland, I think, would be a good one for us.

He's one of the liberals who's got a little steel.

He has a little steel.

He's not as strong a man as Rizzo, but I'm telling you, Rizzo, we'll thank him for the governorship.

Don't let Scott know that I'm... What I'm going to say is that, you know, we've never discussed outside of the family.

Mayor doesn't know politics at all.

But at least there's a guy called Inspector and they get together to talk about it.

So that's how the story's getting out.

Well, it's all right, Inspector.

After all, you must remember, Inspector is a difficult

district attorney and the mayor and the district attorney must have a viable relationship, so it's perfectly proper that they meet and discuss things.

John, I'm glad you recognize and appreciate why you cannot alert Scott that I'm doing this because those heavy heads, if you will,

if you'll forgive my bluntness, Mr. President, had an opportunity to have Rizzo as the Republican candidate and wouldn't take him.

He wanted to run as a Republican, and I've never been close to Youngblood and those third graders.

They have nothing.

And the mainliners,

were going to finance it, insisted on that for a long time.

They spent a lot of money doing their best to defeat Rizzo.

You know what they are?

They had a very good description.

They call them the limousine liberals.

The limousine liberals.

Mr. President, I have two other subjects.

My daughter is on the California Art Division.

My daughter, Wallace Weingarten, her husband is in the research unit at UCLA Medical Center.

Wallace is a very attractive, very able youngster.

She has gotten a relationship with North Simon because of her arts.

My daughter has beaten his ears off and

tells me that any time that I'm willing to talk to him, she is confident that he will go along and do anything he wants.

Do you follow me?

That'd be quite cool if you could do it.

Now, originally, he threw something on the table with my daughter.

Do you think you could get your father to bring up the subject of the president?

taking hands with McCluskey.

Now, this was several weeks ago.

I told my daughter when I saw McCluskey made a few remarks a few weeks ago about, I don't know, I said, you tell Simon that under no circumstances would the president ever greet McCluskey.

In my case, my daughter showed me.

But you keep, you know, Simon

On the back warmer, my daughter has a great sense of humor.

So this, to my mind, may be something that you might want me to get into when I go back to California in August.

Let me say on that, we have no dependable line at all.

We have several in knowing.

But if you could do it, you have a blessing.

All right, all right.

I would like to make some kind of a move where he would come out and enthusiastically endorse you.

And would you be willing to greet him if he were to come out?

Oh, I'd greet him at any event.

All right.

Well, Dr. Simon is a great, I can see the picture.

Sure.

He bought this, he bought the Murphy in the primary.

And Dr. Simon, I haven't met him.

After all, he's one of the great California figures.

Of course, I agree.

I think it has collective value because whereas there are some Republicans in the state of California who would like to keep him far away, in my judgment, it's in your interest to have all hands.

That's right.

All hands.

Justice Lee has been assigned as president.

Oh, Gus is working on this.

Gus knows him.

Gus served on the board of his company.

But, um, all right.

No, don't worry about it.

All these things to come at him in different ways.

Because it's all about Simon's very problem.

You know what I mean?

He likes attention.

Yes, I've had him in my residence.

As a matter of fact, I even gave him the advice as to how to get married.

He called me.

Oh, really?

He was over...

I received a call on a Saturday morning about 10 o'clock.

Norton Simon was calling the investor.

So I picked up the call.

He said, Walter, I have a picture.

I'm in bed with a picture.

It's the joy of my life.

I didn't know what he was talking about.

He said, I hear with Jennifer Jones that we've got to

You know, if you don't buy a picture right away, it's going to get away from you.

I thought to myself, this girl is going to let this fat trout get away from me.

He said, I've got to marry her immediately.

Well, I said, Norton, this is what's a weekend.

You can't get married in Saturday.

Weren't you recently divorced in California?

He said, yes.

Well, I said to him,

require the Archbishop of Canterbury to give you an okay, and I doubt if I can get that for you.

Well, he said, I've got to get married immediately.

Well, I said, I'll tell you what you do.

Either fly to Nice, go to Monte Carlo, and I'm sure you can get somebody in Monte Carlo to marry you right away, or get a yacht with a captain on it, and

go out to sea and get married.

That's exactly what he did.

So I have him.

But my daughter has a very good relationship with him.

I would get this around to where my daughter would invite him to lunch or something, you see.

His relationship with Gus Levy is client.

It isn't the kind of relationship I've got.

Oh, I could talk to him.

I could talk down to him, or I could leave him with his hat in his hand.

There's a difference.

Let me say it.

You mentioned Jennifer Jones.

Yes.

My recollection is she's very friendly.

She used to be very friendly to us, Jennifer Jones.

Used to be.

For a few years.

I only knew her when she

married to David Selznick.

Yeah, but I just mentioned that.

I have a recollection that I may be totally wrong, but that might be something that would help us in the hope of legal.

No, but I think it would be great, and then also if there's a fellow like Norton Simon, we can do some business.

My daughter was selected as an alternate delegate at the California Convention, and I told her to

Well, I'll tell you why I did that.

Freeman Gosden has a daughter 19 years of age that they made the regular delegate.

And I thought it was a little embarrassing for the Governor to select my daughter 32 years of age as an alternate delegate.

It became a matter of pride.

I wouldn't let Reagan put my daughter up in the gallery now.

Oh, I see.

I don't mind.

Well, he must have.

I remember that from all these different districts.

This is Freeman Gossett's daughter and my daughter are in the same district.

Now, she's a lovely girl.

Linda Cosby is a delightful girl.

Nothing, that's not the point.

Well, the point is that they're trying to get 19-year-old blacks to come.

Yes, I know.

My daughter happens to be extremely attractive and is very bright and is, she's,

I'm sold.

He's all on republicanism.

But I couldn't permit Ronnie Raven to put my daughter up in the gallery.

It's as simple as all that.

I'm glad you're a fan of Raven.

He called me on the telephone and began explaining.

I said, Governor, I happen to be a visitor in your state, and I would presume to suggest how you organize your

Well, he said, well, I want to explain it.

I said, it's embarrassing to me to have you, the governor of the state of California, explain your philosophy.

I would prefer if you do not.

I won in that position.

Very good.

No, no, no, really.

I, well, that's,

That's my nature.

I don't know.

My daughter was at the luncheon for Pat recently.

My daughter is a trustee at the University of Southern California.

She was at the Chamber of Provision the night that you went to the musical there.

Oh, yeah.

And the dinner.

And I think you met her at that time.

My God, it would be a nice thing just to support.

We don't know what is coming up, John.

Why don't you put her and her husband on a list for one of our... We have nothing for the moment planned.

But, you know, they might want to come back to a dinner or something like that.

No, no, they're due.

You know what I mean?

He's a young neurosurgeon.

He's got to be in the hospital.

Well, we'll see.

I wanted to concentrate on this.

I don't think he's done enough.

He's done enough.

No, no.

I'd like to see Dr. Arnold, sir.

Wallace is a great, Wallace is a great.

Tell me, is she interested in art?

Is that it?

Yes, that's it.

She's interested in everything.

But she's got four years on this.

And I think we ought to put her on the National Commission for the Arts.

Would she like to do that?

You know, there's a National Commission that's deadly important.

We need a young person on that.

Now let's get this girl on there.

What did it involve her coming east on a case?

Because she's got four youngsters.

I would say that it's very seldom.

Very seldom?

Yeah.

Fine, you know.

Very seldom.

But mainly, frankly, it's a hell of an honor.

Wallace, W-A-L-L-I-S. Mrs.

Is she more interested in the performing arts or painting or what kind?

What did she say?

She's interested in art and the performing arts.

Well, she's interested in everything.

Speak the Latin, you'll know.

And finally, for things that would not require travel.

But would it for a youngster if she can?

Would she ask for justice?

Yes.

Yeah.

That sounds great.

Yeah.

Are you a grandfather?

I have six.

Lee's daughter has two granddaughters and I have six.

And what I've done is this.

I've taken a cut at Beverly Hills Hotel in the month of August and I want to get a house at Santa Monica or Malibu so I can be with the youngsters on the beach every day.

You know a very good place here, a good place up there is to... Trancas.

Trancas.

It's a little too far.

Do you know that beach, don't you?

I do, but one of my problems is I have to pick up the youngsters in the morning, and Trancas is a little too far to go back and forth.

Malibu would be great, but Santa Monica is better, if you can find it.

It's hard to find a house, but as much as I have to move them back and forth,

I don't want to be out too far.

Beverly Hills Hotel has one.

I remember those cottages are beautiful there.

Yeah.

They're still nice.

I've been there.

Cottage number five.

I've never been in a cottage there in years.

There's a new cottage there.

They used to have a beautiful dining room there.

All of that's redecorated in green.

Beverly Hills Hotel.

That's a new provision.

That's not in...

I've never heard of it.

Beverly Hills.

That's the one.

Beverly Hills Hotel.

Beautiful.

The other good one that has good cottages, but maybe not large enough for a belly room is the cottages.

Barely most are better because they have more room.

They have room kitchens and everything there.

Not my own.

The house I just saved mine out there.

I don't have to accept that.

Not up there.

I had to use mine in August.

Oh, how are we going to go there?

We're going to Miami Air.

Thanks to Mitchell.

He decided to go to Miami Air out of San Diego.

Can you imagine?

Would you have a kind of a campaign to manage it?

Mr. President, I'm going to resist the opportunity to score, and I'm going to give you the background.

I was a student at the University of Pennsylvania.

I was an English professor.

a doctor with the name of Wade Andrews, to give us a lecture about once a month on the need to learn to practice restraint in life.

And he used varying samples, but the title of the lecture was always the same, O for the Ability to Resist the Opportunity to Score.

Now there's so many ways I can score about San Diego that I'm going to resist all of them.

Well, I can tell you one thing, that by the time I got out of California, I knew that San Diego had to be dumped.

Did you?

Well, I talked to John, and that was one thing.

I talked to you about it.

I talked to you about it, and that had to go, because that was... Well, I knew it had to be for me, because I prefer to stay in San Clemente in August.

But that's my response.

We will have an opener.

Two weeks ago I spoke to Leonard Firestone, you know the Firestone company has an executive house on Upper Miami Beach.

I said, Leonard, reserve a suite there for me.

I suspect

The four of us will be going to Miami Beach.

He said, I don't know what you're talking about.

I said, I'm telling you to reserve those rooms right now.

So he was laughing about that.

I saw him on a John Gale verse the other day.

There is someone you can rely on who will stand up like a real John Gale.

Leonard Firestone.

Oh, he's a great friend.

He's a great friend.

He's just been wonderful.

I have, you know, he works at the foundation.

He has been terrific.

He's also here as finance chairman.

He's such a sweet guy.

I use that term as an accommodation.

He's just a sweet guy.

He can be tough.

Oh, there comes rules.

Mr. President, Leonard and I have a great relationship for many years.

Leonard is waiting until after November, because he's taken a lot of tough from people in California, and he

he will continue to take it until after November.

And then, I don't know.

Waller, he knew that was coming, and that's why I admired him.

He's not going to have to take a lot of abuse.

We're accepting the responsibility of holding fast.

And he just told Ray, right on the line, before he took that job, I was going to run.

That's all of us are interested.

He doesn't want any more of that siphoning off, you know, the governor's this and the governor's that.

They wanted to rip everything up for themselves.

And the president was going to be in second position to them.

I know, but we had that all worked out where every nickel... Of course, they had a problem.

None of these keep it all to themselves.

But we've got it set up.

The land fires, though, they are fast, it's just been great.

So I'll tell you when I see him out there.

I'm going to see the Democratic Convention from California going out there.

That's the place that needs to be.

Well, I'll tell you, Walter, we do appreciate not only your service as ambassador, but what you're doing in this Philadelphia thing would be extremely critical.

Because, you see, we've been close in Pennsylvania.

We were even close last time.

But we always lose it because you can't lose Philadelphia by 300,000 votes in Cary State.

You can cut it to 150,000 in Cary State.

It's as simple as that.

Mr. President, I know what my responsibility is.

And I regard this as my responsibility.

It's as blunt as that.

Well, I appreciate it very much.

Well, I appreciate this opportunity to visit with you, because I couldn't be happier.

Well, we're great.

Nor could I be any more proud of the honor of being in your official family.

It's a good job.

President, you're going to have a dinner.

We just got some new couplings for the president.

Would you get some of the new couplings for the ambassador?

This will be one of the second pair of your anomalies.

I'm sure you scheduled this dinner for the night long before you knew what I was going to have in this room.

I needed dinner tonight.

I'm holding it now.

It's really good.

And, uh, hey, uh, and do you have one of those, the double... Do you have any of the doubles?

The double cuts?

The double cuts.

Yes, sir.

I'd like one of those, too.

I'm going to give you two pairs of double cuts.

I'm going to show you how much, so I can get out of this job.

These are rather nice.

They're a little bit fancy, but, I mean, a little bit flashy.

But that's the, I appreciate them.

That's done, uh, made by, uh, the, uh, R. R. Jewelers.

And they're, uh, it's an exact replica of the seal, uh, as it, as it appears.

I, um,

I think of our friend Norman Vincent Peale every once in a while.

He once told me something that I try to follow.

Now this one is a real...

These are basically doubles on either side.

And they are the real stuff.

That's all you get.

If you've given these away, at least you better keep the one I said that you said.

Mr. President, if you let me in here, I'll .

Something that I think about from time to time and it's very, very difficult to follow.

Resentful feelings complicate things and can even affect your health.

Sure.

Practice being dispassionate.

sort of the power hypothesis.

Every time I pick up the Herald Review or the Washington Post, I become ill and I'm going to tell you... Graham visited me in London over two years ago.

And I told her that I thought her terroristic operation was an absolute disgrace.

She said, I never interfere with my people.

Well, I said, you may have, maybe you don't interfere with them, but if this is your operation, you're running it.

Don't tell me I've had a publisher.

I said, Kay, you're going to keep on punching people until someday somebody's going to do the Phil Graham story, and you'll never get over it.

You've been kicking everybody for years.

That's quite a story to tell.

Yes, this is quite a story that I know a good deal about because I counseled and did my best to try to straighten them out several times.

I said, and she started crying, how can you talk about my dead husband?

Well, I said, you're taking everybody else's brains out.

Why don't you think about that?

Good, good, good.

Now, she's still taking jabs at me whenever she can.

But my father, this is last night.

She's a miserable bitch.

That's right.

And I brought up Teal because there may be a time when I will not be able to be dispassionate.

And in the next one or two years, I'm going to get a team, put out a paperback on the Phil Graham story.

I thought it was a good way to use some help.

Let me get you a more delicate, delicate voice again.

Hold it here.

I want to apologize for real trouble.

If you'll forgive me, this bitch has got it coming.

She's been around kicking everybody and no one has done anything about it.

You know, don't bring up the story.

That's a long story.

Very interesting.

The question is whether he ever committed suicide.

Oh yes, I see.

How often did she kill him?

She was there.

One way or the other?

Anyway, I don't think I've heard it.

Let me tell you an interesting thing, though.

Yes.

A more subtle way to say bitch.

Yes.

Because I remind us of the... You remember Manolo Arsenault?

Yes.

He's in the hospital today.

The operator runs his leg.

Or he had a...

But when I was in Florida about a month ago, right after we bombed Hanoi and Haiphong, they had about 25 miserable demonstrators out there, horrible looking people.

And so I said, I said,

I said, where are those people out there?

And he says, go out and see who they are.

He says, oh, sir.

He says, I don't have to go out and see them.

He says, I have never seen these people before.

But he said, I have seen their mothers at the 42nd and Broadway in New York.

The Spanish word for bitch is .

It's a little bit far away.

They were really great.

Thank you, you made a great day.

God, God.

That was pretty good.

I want you to please note that when your colleague in Paris got taken on,

By God, we stood by him.

When your colleague in Paris got given on, we stood by him.

Of course, he probably had a few drinks and made a pass to the girl, but what the hell?

I must have let this guy in watching the post-broadcast.

Well, I wrote to Dick, and I have a very good relationship with him.

Stand by him.

I would drive them over to some of the state people.

I asked for his resignation, and I said, the hell we will.

And then I don't know what I told them.

I mean, when some congressional people started

And then I didn't really build a bad bonfire.

I had it in the press here.

And I said, boy, you know, I just would, I wouldn't think those members of Congress would want to investigate the conduct of ambassadors on private planes.

I said, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Boy, that stopped just like that.

Wayne Hayes was beginning to organize a big bonfire.

And I started, you know, calling everybody in.

And I had Davis and then Senator Church and Simonton.

Uh, Fulbright and all the boys wanted to get into the act.

I followed with a hurried, hurried journey.

We've got records on congressmen, senators, you know, brothels and everything you've been a man in.

And all of them.

They don't take lots of stations.

They don't take people.

But I hope that you can see the facts in my spurs.

He's not regarded as an older resumptuous.

He is just, he did not forget about it.

He might have fired a stone.

I won't if he's available.

I think he'd love to hang a massacreship.

He's got it.

Let me tell you, he's never, he's never asked.

He's never asked.

But, uh, let me say that, uh,

When you are seeing him, if you were before him, you would just say, Tom, I raise the subject, and that I want it to be available afterwards, and then just say, all right.

See, then it's done.

You'll get it.

But I'm fairly opposed to our, I'm good opposed to it, as far as I'm concerned.

My wife is always careful that people will say that all of the publicity that I was asked to leave,

if there could be some innovation that you might have hoped that it might remain on, but I definitely don't want to go back to track.

You normally send any presentation.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then if there could be a suggestion that you care to remain on, or just so that there would be

Absolutely.

I do want to get back to my wife.

Absolutely.

We'll just put it on Mark's basis that it's worth his basis that after the election that he said, well, it's customary that we would, of course, the administration, we would like to have you stay on if you can.

And it'll be your option.

Fair enough.

Done.

Deal.

And remember that you are the goodness of our tribe.

Thank you, President.

Thank you, Father.

Nixon, Annenberg & Mitchell on 1972 Presidential Election and Diplomacy

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