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How's it going?

Oh, he looks great.

Could you approach us for a moment?

My God, really?

He's pretty wild.

He has some problems with bone.

There he is.

Slow it down.

Sugar, that would ensure that he's not going forward.

My view is that what we should do in that period is

They can sit down there and you can sit down on the pier and fish and have a nice vacation.

We'll sit down there and might as well take the dogs down and they can go down there and the two of them.

We could probably just use a plane.

We'll do that.

We're gonna try to get him knocked out of the conference this week, which is Monday.

Take a look.

And because at one point, they've tried to get out.

Yeah, but the really is kind of a, you know,

Let's say he'd appeal in terms of that I'm taking the hard line.

Sure.

Here he is taking the... You and Laird and him.

He's got all of you out on the hard line with him.

And then he just comes right around the backside and hits the peace offer.

I think the point to make with it is the peace offer is fully known and is being observed by people, but that that's not what we want to appear to be pushing at this point.

Yeah, I just say that the next week we're gonna need, we're gonna need a shot.

Let's, let's wait.

For the P.O.W.

wives thing, we'll wait till next week and do anything, don't you?

Yeah, I...

Concerned about doing it at all?

They feel now you should do the three, not the full board, just the three.

Oh, I can't.

Unless you want to give us a pick today.

No, no, no.

We can't do it once in Boston, once in Richmond.

We have to bring them in.

All right, Monday.

And if we can do it, the thing to do would be, let that be a story to start off with.

It's a good enough story, it'll re-pick up the positive side of the issue there.

All right, sorry for Monday.

We've still got the question of what our congressional strategy is.

Clark says now that

What our friends up there are pushing for is a sense of the Congress resolution, but with leaving the fund cutoff in.

Which is to take Chase Church.

Change the December 31st cutoff to 120 days after the ceasefire.

You really got the question?

It's weak in the one sentence, but it strengthens your position.

I don't think you need your position strengthened, maybe, but... Well, let me ask you to do this.

Why don't you try the damn thing on Henry?

I mean, collect the damn wall.

But I mean, just work on it.

Don't say, but mainly don't say Clark is for it.

Right.

You know, you say that this is something that our friends, the Hawks and the Bears, they gotta be, they can live with that.

What's he think about it?

I, my own view is that he's got a reaction to it.

The Congress fighting in Syria is a problem.

They have to worry about it, too.

I mean, as I do think it does, we in our position, I think, in terms of our goal of keeping the South African minority at least guessing in the race,

I didn't think it was our decision for us to say we're going to do this.

I think we could choose the morale and all that sort of thing.

So maybe the Congress goes ahead and passes the commandment.

I don't know whether that would do well.

The other thing is the Congress could pass something worse.

But the other side, too, is maybe the way to do it is let them stay out of it, but let our people in Congress move towards this.

As being, if they've got to pass something, it's better for them to pass this than it is for them to pass a straight group of charity.

Case charity.

And then if they do pass it, we can say, rather than hailing it as a triumph, just say, well, that's what the person said in his speech earlier.

So what?

I think the difference there is the comics, they're going to pass on.

Yeah.

If they can do this without a fun cut-off, would you feel better about it then?

Well, that's just our proposal.

Hell yes, that's fine.

Or maybe they have to have a better cut-off.

It sure means that their bill or whatever it is, the Senate doesn't have to be here.

Oh Christ, if we could get that one.

That's fine.

I see no problem with that.

It's a fun color.

Cause is related.

Offensive action is something like that.

They say it's the sense of the Congress that has the fun speed.

And if that doesn't... Well, it sounds like it.

Yeah.

We've been through that before.

Yeah.

I suppose you have a goal with Henry on the thing.

And after we've had lunches, I think there are certain I'll call down here and get the people and I'll make the decision.

But I don't know how I can think about it at all.

Okay.

I bet you have another hour, I suppose.

No, not really for Monday.

Was that right?

I haven't saw it for long.

At least that's what they said this morning.

It's my understanding that the moment of salvation is coming, my friend.

Ben, in his poll analysis, comes up with an interesting point.

He says there's obviously a wide chasm of difference between the reaction of the public as a whole and the reaction of the radical students who are getting so much attention in the demonstration business.

He says that without taking a survey, we can be sure the public has strongly disapproved of negative behavior every poll we've taken.

You know what I'm saying?

It may well be that it would want to crystallize and articulate a public opinion even more strongly on that thing.

In other words, it may want to

go for a device in there.

I'm not sure you need to.

I mean, if that's a point we could use or hold in reserve, it would demonstrate how to be packing.

Hmm?

Pay with anything?

Yeah.

To demonstrate.

I'm not sure we have to pick them.

I think they'd maybe just, that kind of takes care of itself.

And there isn't all that much ginning up.

Minnesota's the only place where any is.

Where do you find him?

I don't think he ever got left.

I have a question for you.

Do you have any of you sitting with Henry's credibility on this thing?

I mean, thank you since he's talking, but...

Probably will be, because it's a press conference and stuff.

Probably not a bad idea.

Yeah, I think maybe that would be good if you could talk to Henry a little bit.

The first thing I said, if you could talk to him a little about this other problem.

And then I'll try to...

I don't see anything you'd like to go over there.

No, you... You might as well stay here.

Actually, then it's better for me if you just go to... Do that.

Good.

If you can't stretch this, yeah, come over here.

Yeah, everybody's been pushing a whole lot of stuff.

You know, so if anything, Johnson couldn't have ever gone through this kind of thing.

He had to watch himself.

Worrying about the Senate.

Worrying about the Russians.

Worrying about, you know, everything.

Boy, you couldn't get yourself in the worst position because they don't know what they're doing.

They're flopping back.

You know, they're bouncing around.

You're so much better off to stay out of that and steer your own course.

Oh, right.

We're getting excited about the prices, and we've never seen them so confused.

They had some World War III this morning.

And he said to the guys, it kills them.

It kills them for a while.

I don't know if it's a matter of this World War III thing.

I don't think people are that scared.

But they know one other thing.

They cry a little too much now.

Well, I wasn't supposed to.

Oh, I can't believe it, especially Chinese or others coming in then.