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Colson\n\n      Secret Service protection\n          -Level\n                Presidential candidates\n                     -Editorial in New York Times\n\n      President's schedule\n          -Meeting public\n                      -Reason\n                      -Location\n                -Treasury Department\n                      -Handshaking with White House tourists\n          -Meeting in John B. Connally's office\n          -Mexico-US Interparliamentary Conference\n                -Michael J. Mansfield\n          -The President’s view\n          -Allen J. Ellender\n                -Forthcoming film\n                      -Audience\n\n          -Herb G. Klein\n          -Emil Mosbacher\n          -William P. Rogers\n          -Henry A. Kissinger\n\n**********************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Personal Returnable]\n[Duration: 2m 3s      ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n      President's schedule\n          -Meeting with John D. Ehrlichman and Colson\n          -Meeting with Kissinger\n\nHaldeman left at 8:03 am.","filename":["725a.mp3","725b.mp3","725c.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:01:42","tapeEnd":"00:08:48","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. 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