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For me, hell no."},{"start":7446.65,"end":7448.31,"text":"I'm a mutant."},{"start":7455.67,"end":7457.45,"text":"Back to what I used to be."},{"start":7457.49,"end":7458.06,"text":"I'm out of home."},{"start":7461,"end":7461.64,"text":"You can't be afraid."},{"start":7461.66,"end":7463.1,"text":"Turn away and be afraid."},{"start":7471.38,"end":7474.24,"text":"Yeah, yeah."},{"start":7474.26,"end":7477.58,"text":"He was a hell of a bad shot, or if not, Wallace would be dead."},{"start":7477.6,"end":7477.74,"text":"Oh, yeah."},{"start":7479.46,"end":7481.32,"text":"The poor fellow may get a carol, probably."},{"start":7481.36,"end":7481.62,"text":"Yeah, yeah."},{"start":7481.82,"end":7486.04,"text":"Thank God."},{"start":7486.08,"end":7491.42,"text":"Well, I have to tell you, I've been hoping to be down Saturday with the dogs for two weeks, and Saturday morning."},{"start":7491.44,"end":7491.84,"text":"All right."},{"start":7491.92,"end":7493,"text":"All right, fine."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":7353.75,"end":7493,"startMethod":"silence","endMethod":"silence"},"transcriptConfidence":"medium","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon discusses the recent assassination attempt on George Wallace with a White House operator, expressing skepticism about the shooter's political affiliation and motives. 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