Nixon White House TapesTape 725 › Conversation 725-023

Nixon & Bull on Multiculturalism and Photography

Tuesday, May 16, 1972 · 10:12 AM–10:23 AM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Bull, Stephen B.Conversation725-023 onTape 725 (tape position 02:24:04–02:26:48)StartTuesday, May 16, 1972 at 10:12 AMEndTuesday, May 16, 1972 at 10:23 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 725-023 ↗

President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull reviewed photographs featuring a diverse group of schoolchildren, including students of various ethnic backgrounds. The President utilized the images to comment on the multicultural composition of the school, identifying specific groups such as Mexican-American, African-American, and Japanese students. The meeting served as a brief interlude for the President to engage with visual documentation of his constituents before proceeding with his daily schedule, which included a meeting with Ronald L. Ziegler.

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2:24:04I just want to welcome you all and meet you all.
2:24:13In this picture, you're in the second grade thinking there were some Mexican-Americans in there.
2:24:16There are, sure.
2:24:17See, it's like a road.
2:24:17A curve.
2:24:17It's like an Indian.
2:24:20A real Indian school.
2:24:21And there's some Mexican-Americans, African-Americans, Japanese, all the rest.
2:24:34Okay, thank you.

On May 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:12 am and 10:23 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 725-023 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 725-23

Date: May 16, 1972
Time: Unknown between 10:12 am and 10:23 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

       President's schedule
           -Meeting with Ronald L. Ziegler

Bull left.

                                        (rev. Jan-02)
  • 024-145 9:59 AM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:59 am and 10:00 am.
  • 024-146 10:00 AM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon, and Walter R. Tkach talked on the telephone from 10:00 am to 10:05 am.
  • 725-019 10:00 AM · 9 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon, and Walter R. Tkach met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:00 am and 10:05 am.
  • 725-020 10:05 AM · 49 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:05 am and 10:11 am.
  • 024-148 10:11 AM · 53 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon talked on the telephone from 10:11 am to 10:12 am.
  • 725-021 10:11 AM · 7 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:11 am and 10:12 am.
  • 725-022 10:12 AM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:12 am and 10:23 am.
  • 725-024 10:23 AM · 32 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:23 am to 10:52 am.

Conversation 725-023, May 16, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/725-023 (accessed September 18, 2026).