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Nixon & Connally on Latin America diplomacy and Treasury Department

Tuesday, May 16, 1972 · 11:31 AM–11:35 AM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Connally, John B.Conversation725-028 onTape 725 (tape position 03:34:53–03:40:00)StartTuesday, May 16, 1972 at 11:31 AMEndTuesday, May 16, 1972 at 11:35 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 725-028 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and John B. Connally discuss the logistics of Connally's upcoming diplomatic trip to Latin America, which is intended to counter regional influence while Nixon visits the Soviet Union. The two also coordinate the transition of the Treasury Department leadership, planning a joint walk to the department to announce George P. Shultz as the successor to the resigning Connally. Additionally, they touch upon recent international diplomatic missions, including Henry Kissinger's trip to the People's Republic of China and William P. Rogers' NATO engagement.

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3:35:33This is because John sat in for one minute before the other.
3:35:48I haven't seen him a minute before.
3:36:47I appreciate your nice comments.
3:36:50What I had in mind was to talk to Henry, and he makes a hell of a good idea if you were going to go to, and we figured out the four countries, the four biggest, if you could do Colombia, Brazil, where you should spend a little more time, Argentina, and Peru.
3:37:12Peru.
3:37:12Well, Peru only because we're trying to stick it to Chile.
3:37:15He's no good, but he's better than the other countries.
3:37:18But Peru is a big country, that's the point.
3:37:21So you could tell us what I have learned.
3:37:23It's reporting, basically, Henry's going to go to China to report, and Rogers is going to go to NATO.
3:37:27And I just had an idea that somebody came down and talked to these people after my trip.
3:37:40I didn't see it.
3:37:41Because I'm not the Mexican person here, so I will cover Mexico.
3:37:44You can do that.
3:37:44That's why I mean, when I talk to the press, I'll say that you agree with me.
3:37:51Another thing I have in mind, I'd love to have you, the way I'll do this at all.
3:38:14I'll make a brief statement, and then I'll leave.
3:38:24Then I'll let you go on.
3:38:24I do have a couple of questions, so I'll let Jose here cut it off quickly.
3:38:28I've got a couple of questions for him.
3:38:30Oh, I'm sure that, and then the other one I asked, didn't he, but that'll be also on file.
3:38:34Right.
3:38:34So we've got that.
3:38:34And the other thing is, I thought I'd walk over to the tracer with you and George, and everyone, just walk over there.
3:38:41And the, uh, you might want to call
3:38:48You might want to get all of your staff together.
3:38:50They're supposed to be gathering at 12 o'clock.
3:38:51No, that's fine.
3:38:51We won't be ready for 12 o'clock.
3:38:52Because it's 25 o'clock.
3:38:53Fair enough.
3:38:53Yes, sir.
3:38:53I think for any reason.
3:38:56I don't believe in this business.
3:38:56We've got a time zone.
3:38:57And now all candidates are coming.
3:39:05But nobody is on it.
3:39:07I told him no increase in my service.
3:39:32That's right.

NARA Description

On May 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and John B. Connally met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:31 am to 11:35 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 725-028 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 725-28

Date: May 16, 1972
Time: 11:31 am - 11:35 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with John B. Connally.

      Connally
         -Cabinet meeting
               -Comments
                     -President's appreciation
         -Trip to Latin America
               -President's discussion with Henry A. Kissinger
               -Colombia
               -Brazil
               -Argentina
               -Peru
                     -Reasons
                           -Chile
                           -Size
               -Connally's role

      Other trips
         -Kissinger
                -People’s Republic of China [PRC]
         -William P. Rogers

                                        (rev. Jan-02)

                -North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
           -The President’s trip to the Soviet Union

      Connally
         -Trip to Latin America
               -Role
               -Mexico
               -Timing with President's Soviet trip

      President's schedule
          -Announcement of Connally's resignation
                -George P. Shultz
                -President's statement
                      -Departure
                -Connally's statement
                      -Questions
                            -Ronald L. Ziegler
          -Walk to Treasury Department with Connally and Shultz
          -Meeting with Treasury Department staff
                -Time
          -Walk to Treasury Department
                -Purpose
                      -New York Times editorial
                -Handshaking with tourists
                -Secret Service protection

      George C. Wallace
         -Assassination attempt

The President and Connally left at 11:35 am.

                                         (rev. Jan-02)

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  • 725-030 11:49 AM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, White House operator, and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:49 am and 11:57 am.
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Cite this conversation

Conversation 725-028, May 16, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/725-028 (accessed September 18, 2026).