Nixon White House TapesTape 725 › Conversation 725-030

Nixon & Haldeman on John B. Connally and Resignation

Tuesday, May 16, 1972 · 11:49 AM–11:57 AM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob");  White House operator;  Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Conversation725-030 onTape 725 (tape position 03:41:03–03:46:30)StartTuesday, May 16, 1972 at 11:49 AMEndTuesday, May 16, 1972 at 11:57 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 725-030 ↗

President Nixon and H. R. Haldeman met to strategize the press narrative surrounding Treasury Secretary John B. Connally’s resignation, specifically aiming to preempt speculation linking the departure to the recent shooting of George C. Wallace or Texas political dynamics. They discussed the content of the President’s statement, emphasizing that the timing was pre-planned during a January meeting in San Clemente rather than reactive. Additionally, they touched upon the personal transition for Nellie Connally, comparing her reluctance to leave Washington with the Nixons' own past experiences with relocation.

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3:41:54I don't think we're out here.
3:41:56They are.
3:41:56Okay, well, let's go wait here.
3:42:01If they're not here, I'll just keep going.
3:42:05Yeah.
3:42:05They're not.
3:42:05So let's not worry about that.
3:42:07No.
3:42:09So we get Connie and Shelton.
3:42:10As soon as Connie and Shelton are ready, as soon as Connie and Shelton are ready.
3:42:58Oh, I think that was good.
3:43:02That gives you a damn good...
3:43:06I think that was the way to handle the comment.
3:43:11Nice, awful, key way to surprise.
3:43:27Well, but it was good to cite some specifics.
3:43:29I mean, you know, December 14th is the year it was up, and then the January meeting in San Clemente in Spain for the, you know, six months and all that.
3:43:44I think it puts it in a... Sure.
3:43:46I think where it's not...
3:43:47They will try to tie it to these events, and it's good to lay some basis so that they can, you know, try to tie it to the...
3:43:55to the wallace center to the texas election it's probably hard no the texas election but the wallace is hard you can't we know that well we didn't pick this up right out of wallace i mean that should be an event but uh let it be what they want they're all such a goddamn bunch of shits but they'll just do what they want now we'll come up with it we're gonna break up the president just as we always have don't worry about it we'll do the best we can we're gonna do as well as we can
3:44:24I already think you could be regretful, you know what I mean?
3:44:31You see, she doesn't like to give up.
3:44:32But Molly doesn't, though.
3:44:33She was so undelighted.
3:44:34She can't hide it.
3:44:36She doesn't drive her car.
3:44:36She hates it in that place.
3:44:38She just doesn't like where you go.
3:44:39And she was just, you know, she's going to find the parking lot.
3:44:47You won't.
3:44:47You won't.
3:44:54I don't know, maybe the person's grown up.
3:44:56You know, with me, though, it was terribly difficult going back to California.
3:45:03Of course, I've been here longer.
3:45:07Women are different, for one thing, and I think she's different in a way.
3:45:11I think she's got her feet in the ground.
3:45:12She loves to dig in the soil and plant trees and all that sort of thing.
3:45:16Be with her and chill out.

On May 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, White House operator, and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:49 am and 11:57 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 725-030 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 725-30

Date: May 16, 1972
Time: Unknown between 11:49 am and 11:57 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

      John B. Connally
          -Resignation as Secretary of Treasury
               -Press briefing
                     -Duration
                           -Reasons
                     -President's statement
                           -Evaluation
                           -Content
                                 -George C. Wallace
                                       -President's offer of services

                                          (rev. Jan-02)

                                -Connally
                                      -Tone
                                      -Tenure
                                           -December 14, 1971
                                           -January 1972 meeting in San Clemente
                                           -Extension
                     -Speculation on reasons
                          -Wallace shooting
                          -Texas election
                          -Wallace shooting

      Press
          -The President’s view
          -White House approach

      Connally
         -Resignation
               -Feelings
               -Idanell B. (“Nellie”) Connally
                     -Living in Washington, DC
                     -Compared with President's return to California
                     -The President’s view
                     -Haldeman’s view
               -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon's knowledge

The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time
between 11:49 am and 11:54 am.

 [Conversation No. 725-30A]

      [See Conversation No. 24-149]

      [End of telephone conversation]

      President's Moscow trip

President talked with Mrs. Nixon between 11:54 am and 11:55 am.

[Conversation No. 725-30B]

      [See Conversation No. 24-150; one item has been withdrawn from
       this conversation.]

      [End of telephone conversation]

                                         (rev. Jan-02)

Haldeman left at an unknown time before 11:57 am.
  • 101-009 11:03 AM — President Richard M. Nixon and Cabinet officers and staffers, including John N. Irwin, II, John B. Connally, [David] Kenneth Rush, Richard G. Kleindienst, Rogers C. B. Morton, Earl L. Butz, Peter G. Peterson, James D. Hodgson, Elliot L. Richardson, George W. Romney, John A. Volpe, George P. Shultz, Donald H. Rumsfeld, George H. W. Bush, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, John D. Ehrlichman, Henry A. Kissinger, Peter M. Flanigan, Clark MacGregor, Dr. Edward E. David, Jr., John A. Scali, Herbert G. Klein, Raymond K. Price, Jr., Ronald L. Ziegler, Alexander P. Butterfield, Charles W. Colson, Frederic V. Malek, Robert J. Brown, Caspar W. ("Cap") Weinberger, Ezra Solomon, and Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 11:03 am and 11:59 pm.
  • 725-039 11:03 AM · 14 min — United States Secret Service agents met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:03 am and 11:30 am.
  • 725-027 11:30 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House at 11:30 am.
  • 725-028 11:31 AM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon and John B. Connally met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:31 am to 11:35 am.
  • 024-149 11:49 AM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:49 am and 11:54 am.
  • 725-029 11:49 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:49 am to 11:56 am.
  • 024-150 11:54 AM · 59 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon talked on the telephone from 11:54 am to 11:55 am.
  • 725-031 11:55 AM · 7 min — President Richard M. Nixon, unknown person(s), H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, John B. Connally, George P. Shultz, Caspar W. ("Cap") Weinberger, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:55 am and 12:03 pm.

Conversation 725-030, May 16, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/725-030 (accessed September 18, 2026).