Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 725-033 Date: Tuesday, May 16, 1972 at 12:49 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Karim, Knayet; Hoskinson, Samuel; White House photographer Recording device: Oval Office Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/725-033 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [3:56:38] You know, you just may give me the recommendation. [3:56:39] I know this might be a fight, but I just do our best. [3:56:42] I can't conscientiously, and I disagree with it, because if this all is here, it's going to be an eye-opener. [3:56:51] I'm sure of that. [3:56:52] There was two demonstrations. [3:56:56] Hi, John. [3:56:57] John, the best idea I had today was to go out there across the street [3:57:04] You see, we tend to think that what the New York Times and others say, the nervous knowledge is the country's death. [3:57:17] The country's divided about 60-40. [3:57:20] 40% are scared. [3:57:21] Draft doctors and the rest, about 60% say, by God, show them the balls. [3:57:30] I don't think you're right. [3:57:31] Well, this whole hyponic thing. [3:57:32] Yeah, that's the hyponic thing. [3:57:36] So my mail, every letter I'm getting now from around the country says, tell the president we're going to have a great movement. [3:57:43] Along with other things. [3:57:44] I work with people. [3:57:46] Excuse me, Mr. President. [3:57:47] Hey, is there a meeting with Kissinger? [3:57:48] There's a man named Hoskinson they wanted to meet. [3:57:51] I don't think you know Hoskinson. [3:57:54] I don't care. [3:57:54] Like the letters here today. [3:58:00] He's got something on his mind. [3:58:04] Gross. [3:58:04] I mean, he's just been the title. [3:58:08] They let me in that. [3:58:10] They did? [3:58:10] Yeah. [3:58:12] I'm afraid I'll see him. [3:58:14] I'd love to, except I've got a reception. [3:58:17] I'll say hello for you. [3:58:19] Mr. President, how are you? [3:58:31] Yes, how are you? [3:58:33] Very nice to see you. [3:58:34] Nice to see you. [3:58:38] I'll step over for a picture here so we can have it on this here. [3:58:41] Okay, why don't you sit right here. [3:59:08] We're very glad to see you. [3:59:10] As you know, as I have written to you, we want to establish a good, friendly relationship with your country without any problems. [3:59:19] We have been trying to be helpful on the humanitarian side. [3:59:23] We want to be helpful in every way we can. [3:59:26] We want you to succeed because you've suffered too much now, and that's our attitude. [3:59:38] And, in fact, we're very anxious to have all the countries in the area succeed. [3:59:40] I mean, it's the tragedy of India, Pakistan, and now Bangladesh. [3:59:42] It must not be repeated. [3:59:45] I mean, you, of course, everybody, you know, here in Washington, you know, they do. [3:59:50] And, you know, those aren't many problems. [3:59:59] I was glad to know that the particle time yesterday, they're doing better than your people. [4:00:08] And you can be sure that we'll do everything we can to see that your country can go forward and deal with these problems in a way that will give the people not only a chance to survive, but a hope. [4:00:45] It's one of the first [4:01:00] Pakistani I ever met was from East Pakistan, Muhammad Ali. [4:01:05] Do you remember? [4:01:06] He died a few years later, but he was my host. [4:01:08] Well, do you remember Guliman? [4:01:10] Yes, I do. [4:01:10] He was the governor general at the time. [4:01:12] Muhammad Ali was the prime minister, and I had a wonderful relationship with him. [4:01:20] He was from East Pakistan, but he's gone. [4:01:25] I'd like you to find that, and a very nice wife, too. [4:01:28] He had no car with him. [4:01:29] He had no car with him, yeah. [4:01:30] Is his wife living with you? [4:01:33] He's, uh, she's still living with me. [4:01:34] If you ever happen to see her, tell her I actually brought her in. [4:01:37] Remember me? [4:01:37] I'm so proud of her, too. [4:01:43] You had a guy who brought her in, remember? [4:01:48] Who was there and brought you the lights and everything. [4:01:50] It was a lovely party. [4:01:51] It was a warm place. [4:01:52] A warm place. [4:01:53] A warm place. [4:01:55] A warm place. [4:01:55] A warm place. [4:01:55] Right. [4:01:55] A warm place.