{"conversationCode":"725-037","tapeNumber":725,"conversationNumber":37,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-725-037","startDateTime":"1972-05-16T21:40:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-16T21:43:00.000Z","startDate":"16-May-1972","startTime":"5:40 PM","endDate":"16-May-1972","endTime":"5:43 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); [Unknown person(s)]; Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On May 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, unknown person(s), and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 5:40 pm and 5:43 pm. 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Acker's schedule\n                      -Rose Mary Woods's schedule\n                           -Workload\n          -President's preparation for Soviet trip\n          -Acker's workload\n                -Woods\n          -Meeting with John Cardinal Krol\n                -Oval Office meeting\n                      -Time before Sequoia cruise\n                      -Photograph arrangements\n          -Packet from John B. Connally\n          -Meeting with Krol\n                -Time\n\nBull and the unknown man left at an unknown time before 5:43 pm.\n\n                                        (rev. Jan-02)","filename":["725a.mp3","725b.mp3","725c.mp3"],"tapeStart":"04:55:33","tapeEnd":"04:57:04","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","[Unknown person(s)]","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"725-036","nextCode":"725-038","tapeTranscriptFile":"725a.mp3,725b.mp3,725c.mp3","transcript":[{"start":17769.23,"end":17771.42,"text":"Well, I don't want to be another Senator Elmer."},{"start":17772.08,"end":17776.24,"text":"He's got a new conference on my table."},{"start":17776.34,"end":17777.16,"text":"He's got the old one."},{"start":17777.18,"end":17778.32,"text":"He's got the new one."},{"start":17778.36,"end":17779.21,"text":"The hell with that."},{"start":17779.26,"end":17780.75,"text":"Give him a pen for his life."},{"start":17780.79,"end":17781.55,"text":"Yeah, he's got a pen."},{"start":17793.09,"end":17793.87,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":17794.01,"end":17796.59,"text":"And what do we have for his wife?"},{"start":17796.61,"end":17797.17,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":17797.21,"end":17798.13,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":17798.29,"end":17798.85,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":17827.14,"end":17828.25,"text":"I'll give that to you."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":17768.75,"end":17828.25,"startMethod":"silence","endMethod":"silence"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Stephen B. Bull and an unknown individual to coordinate upcoming logistical and scheduling matters. The discussion centered on arrangements for a trip to Camp David, preparations for an impending Soviet visit, and the scheduling of a meeting with John Cardinal Krol. Additionally, the group addressed administrative concerns regarding personnel workloads, including those of Rose Mary Woods and Marjorie P. Acker, alongside the receipt of materials from John B. Connally.","topics":["Presidential schedule","Camp David","Soviet Union trip","John Cardinal Krol","Administrative staffing","John B. 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