{"conversationCode":"726-009","tapeNumber":726,"conversationNumber":9,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-726-009","startDateTime":"1972-05-19T17:04:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-19T17:08:00.000Z","startDate":"19-May-1972","startTime":"1:04 PM","endDate":"19-May-1972","endTime":"1:08 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On May 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:04 pm and 1:08 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 726-009 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 726-9\n\nDate: May 19, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 1:04 pm and 1:08 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with an unknown man.\n\n     Order\n\nThe unknown man left at an unknown time before 1:08 pm.","filename":["726a.mp3","726b.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:26:25","tapeEnd":"02:27:46","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"726-008","nextCode":"726-010","tapeTranscriptFile":"726a.mp3,726b.mp3","transcript":[{"start":8785,"end":8788.08,"text":"Because they still have to ask if they haven't achieved their objectives."},{"start":8788.18,"end":8794.41,"text":"If they haven't achieved their objectives, they can't knock them over, and they're asking us to knock them over."},{"start":8794.42,"end":8798.95,"text":"Don't you think that if they thought they could do it, they'd look at us the hell out of it?"},{"start":8801.63,"end":8805.37,"text":"they'd be proceeding with us separately, figuring that it's just a question of getting down close."},{"start":8805.45,"end":8812.92,"text":"I don't know if you're aware of the most time that these networks all are doing wishful writing and wishful talking at the day of work."},{"start":8817.21,"end":8819.53,"text":"And I won't."},{"start":8819.61,"end":8821.65,"text":"Let me say it no more."},{"start":8821.69,"end":8824.09,"text":"Well, we appreciate what you're doing."},{"start":8824.15,"end":8825.05,"text":"Mr. President, ."},{"start":8825.21,"end":8828.93,"text":"Well, there are lots of good, lots of good ."},{"start":8829.41,"end":8831.15,"text":"It's bureaucrats."},{"start":8831.59,"end":8833.15,"text":"That's the problem."},{"start":8833.59,"end":8838.3,"text":"I mean, that's the trouble with the top-down Russians."},{"start":8838.33,"end":8840.24,"text":"You've got too many bureaucrats."},{"start":8840.42,"end":8842.34,"text":"But don't ever become a bureaucrat. ."},{"start":8846.46,"end":8846.8,"text":"Right over there."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":8785,"end":8866,"startMethod":"tape_time","endMethod":"tape_time"},"transcriptConfidence":"low","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with an unidentified individual to discuss international objectives, specifically regarding the capabilities and motivations of the Soviet Union. The dialogue touched upon the perceived inefficiencies caused by Soviet bureaucracy and the tendency of media networks to engage in speculative reporting. Nixon emphasized the necessity of avoiding bureaucratic entrapment as they navigated these complex foreign policy challenges.","topics":["Soviet Union","Bureaucracy","Media coverage","Foreign policy","Geopolitics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T03:27:38.964Z"},"topicSlugs":["soviet-union","bureaucracy","media-coverage","foreign-policy","geopolitics"],"audioDurationSec":81,"audioFiles":[{"file":"726a.mp3","bytes":176253177,"durationSec":7343.82,"bitrate":192001,"missing":false},{"file":"726b.mp3","bytes":173897141,"durationSec":7245.65,"bitrate":192001,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":true,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.689Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/726a.mp3","https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/726b.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/726-009","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/726/conversation-726-009","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}