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This is an amazing place.

I heard a good little missionary word from Stannis, who is not a friend of Stannis.

That's what he was referring to.

He said that he'd never leave her to keep the offensive weapons out as the deal.

Well, well, can't do that.

Look, the first impact of this, a schoolgirl, a schooljack, went through the roof because she said he'd bled to die for us on 8 p.m. Now there's nothing about it.

He's more worried about the 8 p.m.

He doesn't care about the offensive weapons.

What it will take is individual talks by me with these guys.

I had a scoop in my office.

The town mayor, he went through the roof.

He said, I'm through with you all.

When I was in my office, he said, no, he thinks we screwed him.

But I explained to him how it came about.

I showed him the military recommendations.

So he said, all right, I won't, of course, I won't oppose you, but before I handle the bill again, I wanted to talk to you as well.

I had more to witness.

Then as I've gotten the board now, but it will take some time.

You're quite right, you're the single instructor that profits with the Hawks today.

Only because they're so dumb, so that they don't understand what we're doing.

Goddamn it, Smith and Rogers don't understand it.

But Smith and Rogers don't want to understand it.

Uh, Smith on the center, the board on the center.

Carson, I understand.

Rogers, I understand.

Uh, now, with a friend as a president, I'd be very careful about saying something that can be quoted, that we two great powers have a special responsibility, because... Well, we have standardized the Chinese currency.

And I wouldn't give them quite as much as you gave the Congress, because the Congress was very careful, but I wouldn't... We had to give them... Oh, no, no, because you could...

The Congress, indeed, is to solve itself, you know.

I would go a little easier on space, environment, and so forth.

I mentioned one or two, say, poor examples.

Which is the best one, space or environment?

I mentioned one or the other.

I mentioned maybe space.

Maybe I'd say you all know about the commercial defense.

But they all know about commerce.

They all know about salt.

How about space, those three?

Yeah, I mentioned those three.

But these guys, they don't think much is going to come out.

I thought this meeting was handled masterfully.

They know it's going to be tough.

But we had at least, see, one thing we've done is we've got to set it all to see if I'm not putting out.

Well, you should have.

On the other hand, did you, what was it that you had in your meeting that wasn't intentional?

You don't think there's any more you can do before you leave?

I've got to work through the evening.

I've got to work with Price on his speech.

The total for the first evening is coming along in pretty good shape.

But really, I'm beginning to think more and more that it's

These big shot writers aren't worth it.

Andrews is, you know, it's just too much struggle with Sapphire.

He's got too many ideas of his own.

That's right.

You were absolutely right.

It's just...

Prior to it, with Andrews, he senses what you want and writes it.

That's right.

Sapphire comes in with something that's totally different from what you ever came up with.

That's right, and then he gets committed to it, and then you finally change it after 15 minutes of arguing, but it's terribly time-consuming.

Well, we'll get it out of the way, and then from there on, on the big stage.

Well, Grice has done a pretty good job.

Grice has done a great job.

But that should be one that has a sort of a good feel to it.

Yeah, that has a good feel to it.

Toast, I don't know.

I think it's coming along.

It's coming along fine.

But I think, except for being too specific about the various areas, I think you could...

It would stay solved.

I'd say we're hopeful that that's solved, because actually...

I'll say there's an awful lot still left to be worked out.

Exactly.

And there's some in the commercial side...

But actually the way it stands now, unintentionally, you will have to break some deadlocks in Moscow and so on.

We certainly are going to have, but we just can't have a situation of coming back and having the hogs make the police screw the country.

Well, I don't know.

Maybe we don't want to deal.

Now, Mr. President, I really think the one where we screwed ourselves is on the ABN, because we just gave over a period of years, because there's in fact too much, but I told Coop, God damn it.

That was the problem.

Every year we had a bigger fight in the Senate.

So that part of it is...

I think the ABM is going to give more heartburn.

The offensive one that is explained, John Power is a board now.

I talked to him.

And it is a board that's... You emphasized, of course, we still got murdered.

We still got bones.

They're giving up the old ICBMs.

We still got our aircraft.

That's a thing to do.

The president will go through a couple of days, in my judgment, very similar to what we did in...

in, uh, in the China community.

Can't ever pull it out, but it doesn't hurt us to have a little streaming into the .

Yeah, I don't know.

I don't want, though, having taken a strong stand in Vietnam, to, to throw it all, piss it all down, simply by, uh... And the only problem is how we're trying to do the selling back here.

When you're there.

When I'm there.

Yeah.

You can't come back to the assault.

Because I'll be working on the communication.

Of course, I don't agree with school on ABM.

We haven't got it out of hand.

We could do more on it.

We could get in more ABM sites if we're flying.

And we still are keeping the system.

Right.

I think it's a good treaty, Mr. President.

You also make a very widespread claim, so let's not...

Now, you have idiots like Dominic who went out like a rocket, but he's so dumb that it's almost impossible.

He said you won't get any money out of Congress if you make any sort of agreement, because, as I said, therefore, when we freeze ourselves, we ruin ourselves.

But that has nothing to do with the specific provisions, that's just...

Among the ones there, the argument they were making, that Sparkley and Dominic were making was, once you break, they all agreed that it's a good deal if we are pushing out.

What they were, yeah, but what they were saying was,

Congress was more money for us.

Well, that's right.

So I think we are in a tolerable space about it.

The alternative was not to have the solidarity.

There was no other alternative.

If you didn't have the submarines in there, you wouldn't face the other argument that they're continuing to build nine a year.

The one the chiefs were making, at the end of the breeze, they had 90.

This is why the chiefs are delighted with it, and they will be down there arguing for it, and Mortar supported us very strongly down there.

Okay, I think that's about it.

And we, we will carry on still.