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Conversation: 726-015

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Start Date: 19-May-1972 5:25 PM

End Date: 19-May-1972 5:35 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Kissinger, Henry A.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 03:03:29

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:55:43

726a.mp3

726b.mp3

NARA Description:

On May 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House from 5:25 pm to 5:35 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 726-015 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 726-15

Date: May 19, 1972
Time: 5:25 pm - 5:35 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Henry A. Kissinger.

     Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
           -Kissinger's work with John C. Stennis
           -Anti-ballistic missiles [ABMs]
           -Offensive weapons
           -Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
                 -ABM
                 -Objections to provisions
                 -Attitude on offensive weapons
                 -Meeting in Kissinger's office
           -Don Maynard
                                      52

               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                              Tape Subject Log
                                (rev. Jan-02)                  Conv. No. 726-14 (cont.)

           -Response on ABMs
           -Meeting with Kissinger
           -Military recommendations
           -Position
           -Meeting with Kissinger and Adm. Thomas H. Moorer
     -Stennis
           -Support
     -Need for lobbying
     -Gerard C. Smith and William P. Rogers
           -Understanding
     -Press briefing
           -President's statement
                 -Caution
                       -People’s Republic of China [PRC]
                 -Compared to information supplied Congress
                 -Caution
                 -Areas to mention
                       -Space
                       -Environment
                       -SALT

Soviet Summit
     -President's meeting with Congressional leaders
           -Expectations
           -President's handling
           -Expectations
     -Kissinger's meetings
           -Stennis
                 -Undersea Long-ranged Missiles [ULMS]
           -Others
     -President's speech
           -Raymond K. Price, Jr. and Kissinger work
     -Toasts
           -William L. Safire
                 -Problems
                 -Speechwriters compared
                       -John K. Andrews, Jr.
                       -Safire
           -Price
           -SALT references
     -SALT
           -Action in Moscow
           -Possible objections by “Hawks”
                                 53

          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                          Tape Subject Log
                            (rev. Jan-02)                Conv. No. 726-15 (cont.)

-ABM
     -Kissinger’s view
     -Kissinger's discussions with Jackson
     -Conflict in Senate
-SALT
     -Support
            -John G. Tower
            -Stennis
     -US weaponry
     -Multiple Independently-targeted Reentry Vehicles [MIRVs]
     -ULMS
-Soviet Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles [ICBMs]
     -Status
-US weaponry
     -Aircraft
-Problems
     -Duration
     -Comparison to PRC Communiqué
     -Administration's position
-Vietnam
     -President's position
-SALT
     -Selling of Administration position
            -Kissinger's absence during Summit
            -Laird and Moorer's role
            -Kissinger's early return
                 -Likelihood
                 -Work on communiqué, five principles
-ABM
     -President's disagreement with Jackson
     -Sites
-SALT
     -Treaty
            -Kissinger’s view
     -Public response
     -Peter H. Dominick
            -Response
            -Kissinger’s view
            -Threat of funds cutoff
     -James L. Buckley
            -Dominick
            -ULMS
            -Appropriations
                                               54

                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. Jan-02)                Conv. No. 726-15 (cont.)

                -Freeze
                -Alternative
                -Submarine provision
                      -Soviets
                           -Number built per year
                -Joint Chiefs of Staff [JCS]
                      -Support
                           -Moorer

     Vietnam
          -Meeting with Congressional leaders
          -J. William Fulbright

     Soviet Summit
          -Prospects

The President and Kissinger left at 5:35 pm.