{"conversationCode":"728-001","tapeNumber":728,"conversationNumber":1,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-728-001","startDateTime":"1972-06-06T17:42:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-06-06T17:59:00.000Z","startDate":"6-Jun-1972","startTime":"1:42 PM","endDate":"6-Jun-1972","endTime":"1:59 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.;","description":"On June 6, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the Oval Office of the White House from 1:42 pm to 1:59 pm. 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Colson.\n\n[See Conversation No. 25-14 and 25-15]\n\n[The first portion of this conversation may have been recorded on Conversation No. 25-15;\nhowever this recording is inaudible due to poor volume]\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Personal returnable]\n[Duration: 2m 18s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n     George C. Wallace\n         -Health\n\n     Richard G. Kleindienst’s confirmation\n          -Timing\n          -H.R. Haldeman\n\n     John B. Connally\n\n     George P. Shultz\n         -Wilbur D. Mills\n         -Connally\n\n     Melvin R. 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Kissinger\n                     -Japan trip\n\n    Kleindienst\n         -Confirmation schedule\n\n    Shultz\n         -Confirmation\n\n    Congress\n        -Impression nationwide\n        -Joint session of Congress\n              -The President’s speech\n              -Public relations\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4\n[Personal returnable]\n[Duration: 6m 46s ]\n\n[THIS PORTION OF CONVERSATION IS RECORDED IN CONVERSATION NO. 25-15;\nONE ITEM HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN FROM THIS CONVERSATION]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4\n\n*****************************************************************","filename":["728a.mp3","728b.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:01:40","tapeEnd":"00:19:52","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. 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