Conversation: 733-006
Prev: 733-005 Next: 733-007Start Date: 14-Jun-1972 11:15 AM
End Date: 14-Jun-1972 11:55 AM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.; Bull, Stephen B.;Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:42:17
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:23:13
NARA Description:
On June 14, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:15 am to 11:55 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 733-006 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 733-6
Date: June 14, 1972
Time: 11:15-11:55 am
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Henry A. Kissinger.
Kissinger 's previous talk with Charles McC. Mathias, Jr.
-Dinner
-Remarks
-Humor
-Charles H. Percy
Clark MacGregor
-Mathias
-Richard G. Kleindienst
Kissinger's remarks
-Vietnam
-Response by audience
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Jan-02)
-The President's foreign policy
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 1m 33s ]
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Nikolai V. Podgorny’s trip to Hanoi
-India
-Press reports
-Calcutta
-Aircraft
-Soviet aviation
-Kissinger's call to Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
The President’s previous meeting with William P. Rogers
-Reasons for trip abroad
-The President’s view
-Press conference
-Charles W. Colson
-"Issues and Answers"
-Strategic Arms and Limitation Treaty [SALT]
-“Issues and Answers”
-Congressional testimony
Rogers's forthcoming trip
-Romania
-Possible Soviet Union response
-The President’s view
-Leonid I. Brezhnev
-Kissinger’s forthcoming conversation with Dobrynin
-Rogers trip
-Greece
-Brezhnev
-The President
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 733-6 (cont.)
-Ceylon
-Behrain
-Iran
-Mohammed Reza Pahlavi [Shah of Iran]
-Oil
-John B. Connally
-Value of trip
-Greece
-Vietnam
Possible press conference by Rogers
-Colson
Rogers's itinerary
-Romania
-Veterans of Foreign Wars [VFW] Convention
-Value of trip
-Travel around country
-Commonwealth Club
Kissinger
-Public appearances
-Forums
-Television appearances
-Nelson A. Rockefeller
-Elite groups
-Benefits
John D. Lavelle’s removal
-Melvin R. Laird
-Circumstances
-Air strikes
-Laird’s role
-Kissinger’s view
Laird's performance
-Compared to Rogers's
-Kissinger’s view
-Budget requests
-Kissinger, George P. Shultz
-Supplemental requests
-Military expenditures for Vietnam
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 733-6 (cont.)
Lavelle
-The President’s view
-Compared to Daniel Ellsberg case
-Military responses
Adm. Thomas H. Moorer
-Air strikes
-Kissinger’s instructions
-US relationship with Soviet Union
Lavelle
-Administration action
-Replacement
-Gen. John W. Vogt, Jr.
-Timing of removal
-Laird
-Informing the President
-Kissinger’s knowledge
-Public relations aspects
-Rogers
-Administration response
-Press response
-Number of unauthorized air raids
-Public response
People’s Republic of China [PRC] announcement
-Press coverage
-Gen. Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
The President talked with an unknown person [Stephen B. Bull?] at an unknown time between
11:15 and 11:55 am.
[Conversation No. 733-6A]
Ronald L. Ziegler
[End of telephone conversation]
PRC announcement
-Michael J. Mansfield
-Podgorny trip
-Publicity
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 733-6 (cont.)
Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:15 am.
Ziegler’s location
-Press briefing
Bull left at an unknown time before 11:55 am.
Lavelle
-Administration action
-Laird
Moorer
-Air strikes
-Kissinger’s instructions
-Laird
-Opposition to the President
-Lyndon B. Johnson
-Soviet Union
-Podgorny’s trip
-The President’s conversation with Brezhnev
Rogers
-Purpose of Podgorny trip
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 5m 46s ]
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Warren E. Burger
-Letter
John C. Stennis
Laird
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 733-6 (cont.)
-Negotiations with Soviet Union
-Rogers
-Mining of North Vietnam harbors
-Cambodia, Laos
-Lavelle
-Political ambitions
-Kissinger’s view
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 3m 18s ]
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Lavelle
-Haig
-News summary
Kissinger's trip
-Schedule
-Departure
-Dinner for Luis Echeverria Alvarez
-Schedule
-Echeverria
-Kissinger
PRC
-Military information
SALT ratification
-Approval
-Timing
-Republican convention
-Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson's response
-The President’s concern
-Soviet Union responses
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Jan-02) Conv. No. 733-6 (cont.)
-Jackson's concerns
-Defense appropriations
-Opposition
-George S. McGovern
-Jackson
-Opposition
-B-1 bomber
-Undersea long-range missiles [ULMS]
-McGovern
-Kissinger’s possible responses
-Defense appropriation
-Appropriations
-Anti-ballistic missiles [ABMs]
-Relations with Soviet Union
-John J. McCloy
-Support to SALT and military program
-Wall Street Journal
-Talk with Kissinger
-Keisling (sp?) [New York editor]
Kissinger left at 11:55 am.