{"conversationCode":"735-003","tapeNumber":735,"conversationNumber":3,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-735-003","startDateTime":"1972-06-15T16:14:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-06-15T16:16:00.000Z","startDate":"15-Jun-1972","startTime":"12:14 PM","endDate":"15-Jun-1972","endTime":"12:16 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On June 15, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:14 pm and 12:16 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 735-003 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 735-3\n\nDate: June 15, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 12:14 and 12:16 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n     The President’s schedule\n          -Apollo astronauts\n               -Gifts\n               -Photograph\n               -Press briefing\n               -John W. Young\n               -Thomas K. Mattingly, III\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 12:16 pm.","filename":["735-003.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:43:54","tapeEnd":"01:45:47","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"735-002","nextCode":"735-004","transcript":[{"start":3.32,"end":9.58,"text":"Okay, if you've got the watches, let's take about 10 minutes to see if it's qualified."},{"start":9.64,"end":10.96,"text":"Oh, they want the picture right away?"},{"start":11.34,"end":11.98,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":12.12,"end":16.77,"text":"When they have a lot of gas, that's your invitation."},{"start":17.03,"end":19.37,"text":"Then after they leave, they're going to have to read."},{"start":20.01,"end":21.95,"text":"Oh, well, after the press vote."},{"start":22.09,"end":22.73,"text":"Oh, sorry."},{"start":22.77,"end":24.17,"text":"They want the picture right away."},{"start":24.19,"end":25.86,"text":"But after they leave, they have a couple of projects."},{"start":27.27,"end":28.37,"text":"Sure, sure."},{"start":28.79,"end":34.86,"text":"And just to remind you, this Apollo 16 flight was the one that had trouble with the steering system."},{"start":35.12,"end":37.56,"text":"You were keeping track of it."},{"start":38.72,"end":40.2,"text":"You were entertaining the commander."},{"start":40.22,"end":42.09,"text":"The commander is John Young."},{"start":42.15,"end":43.47,"text":"He was the guy calling the shots."},{"start":44.11,"end":45.39,"text":"The guy who stayed on."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Stephen B. Bull to coordinate the scheduling and logistical arrangements for an upcoming visit from the Apollo 16 astronauts, John W. Young and Thomas K. Mattingly, III. The discussion focused on the sequence of events, including a photo opportunity, the presentation of gifts, and a press briefing. Bull confirmed the timeline for the astronauts' arrival and highlighted specific background details regarding the mission's technical challenges to prepare the President for the encounter.","topics":["Apollo 16","John W. Young","Thomas K. Mattingly, III","Presidential scheduling","NASA","White House logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T03:35:16.899Z"},"topicSlugs":["apollo-16","john-w-young","thomas-k-mattingly-iii","presidential-scheduling","nasa","white-house-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":53,"audioFiles":[{"file":"735-003.mp3","bytes":2124660,"durationSec":52.99,"bitrate":320734,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.689Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/735-003.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/735-003","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/735/conversation-735-003","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}