Conversation: 735-004
Prev: 735-003 Next: 735-005Start Date: Thursday, June 15, 1972 4:16 PM
End Date: Thursday, June 15, 1972 4:42 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Mattingly, Thomas K., III; Young, John W.; Duke, Charles M.; Fletcher, James C.; Butterfield, Alexander P.; Ziegler, Ronald L.; White House photographer; Bull, Stephen B.Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:45:47
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:13:16
NARA Description:
On June 15, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Thomas K. Mattingly, III, John W. Young, Charles M. Duke, James C. Fletcher, Alexander P. Butterfield, Ronald L. Ziegler, White House photographer, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:16 pm to 12:42 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 735-004 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 735-4
Date: June 15, 1972
Time: 12:16-12:42 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Thomas K. Mattingly, III, John W. Young, Charles M. Duke, James C.
Fletcher, and Alexander P. Butterfield.
[Ronald L. Ziegler, members of the press and the White House photographer were present at the
beginning of the meeting.]
Introductions
Arrangements for photograph
Presentation of gifts
-Wrist watches
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Gift for Mexican President [Luis Echeverria Alvarez]
-Picture of North America taken from the moon
-Inscription
Wrench used on moon
-Presentation to the President
Space program
-Docking
-William Proxmire
-Cost of space exploration
-Cooperation with Soviet Union
-Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
-Congress
-Weapons
-Future
-Mars
-Jupiter
-Skylab
-Uses
-Space Shuttle
-Availability to other countries
-Japan
-Interest
-Europe
-International cooperation
-Allen S. Drury's book
-The President’s view
-The press
-Spiro T. Agnew
-Joint mission with Soviets
-Mars
-Docking
-Date
-Budget
-National attitudes
-Domestic priorities
-Soviet Union attitudes
-US-Soviet Union competition
-National greatness
-The President’s view
-Exploration of unknown
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-Austria
-Exploration of Western Hemisphere
-Science
-Medicine
-National spirit
-Exploration of Moon
-Mars
-Cooperation
-Intellectuals
-Criticism
-Exploration of unknown
-Science
-Education
-Technology
-Transportation
Astronauts' tour of US cities
-Public support
The President’s meeting with cosmonauts
-Physical appearance of cosmonauts and astronauts
-The President’s view
-Woman cosmonaut
-Physical requirements
-The President’s meeting in the Soviet Union
Soviet Union cosmonauts
-Frank Borman
-Visit to the Soviet Union
-Thomas P. Stafford
-Attendance at cosmonaut funeral
Space program
-Joint program with Soviet Union
-Astronauts’ visits
-Arrangements
-Henry A. Kissinger’s staff
-Purpose
The President’s meeting with Echeverria
-Latin American problems
-Radical solutions
-Fidel Castro
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Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 12:16 pm.
The President's meeting with Kissinger
Bull left at an unknown time before 12:42 pm.
Space program
-Exchange with Soviet Union
-Publicity
-Level of exchange
Astronauts' visit to Camp David
-Facilities
-Recreation
-Movies
-Food
Ziegler entered at 12:39 pm.
Space program
-Forthcoming press briefing
-Exchange with Soviet Union
-Exchange with other nations
-Impact
Forthcoming head of state dinner
-White wine
Mattingly, Young, Duke, Fletcher, and Ziegler left at 12:42 pm.
Forthcoming head of state dinner
-Presentation of Astronauts' picture
-Young
Butterfield left at 12:42 pm.