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Start Date: 15-Jun-1972 12:49 PM

End Date: 15-Jun-1972 1:26 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Kissinger, Henry A.[Unknown person(s)]

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:17:30

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:13:52

NARA Description:

On June 15, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:49 pm to 1:26 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 735-007 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 735-7

Date: June 15, 1972
Time: 12:49-1:26 pm
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                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Feb-02)


Location: Oval Office

The President met with Henry A. Kissinger.

     The President’s meeting with Luis Echeverria Alvarez
          -Length of meeting
          -The President’s re-election
          -Kissinger’s schedule

     Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT] negotiations
          -Length of Congressional briefing
          -The President’s statement to Congressmen
          -Kissinger’s briefing
                -Content
                -J. William Fulbright
          -Senate ratification date
                -Timing
          -Kissinger’s briefing
                -Questions
                      -John C. Stennis
                      -Fulbright
                           -Melvin R. Laird
                                  -New strategic programs
                                       -The President’s view
                                       -Budget
                                       -Kissinger’s response

An unknown person entered and left at an unknown time after 12:49 pm.

     Refreshments

     SALT negotiations
        -Kissinger’s briefing
              -John Sherman Cooper
                    -Pace of arms build-up
              -Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
                    -Numbers of Soviet Union missiles
                        -Limits
                    -Verification
                    -Light compared with heavy missiles
                        -The President’s meeting with Leonid I. Brezhnev
                                -Missiles
                                -Silos
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                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. Feb-02)


     -Administration support
     -Laird
           -Strategic programs
     -Effects of program
           -Savings
           -Anti-ballistic Missile [ABM] Treaty
     -Stennis
     -Kissinger's briefing
           -Length limitations

Executive privilege
    -Thomas E. (“Doc”) Morgan's support for the President's position

Congressional briefing on SALT
    -The President’s comments
          -Quotation from [Thomas] Woodrow Wilson
          -Executive privilege
    -The President’s role in negotiations
          -Kissinger’s briefing
               -Donald M. Fraser’s question
               -Four issues settled with Brezhnev

Democrats
   -Foreign policy issues

People's Republic of China [PRC]
    -Kissinger's announcement
           -Publicity
                -Press coverage

Vietnam
     -Trip by Nikolai V. Podgorny
           -Press coverage
           -Expectations
           -Statement
                -Kissinger’s schedule
                -Contents
                -Joint statement with North Vietnamese
                -Le Duc Tho
                -End of war
     -Soviet Union
     -George H. Gallup poll
           -Copies of latest results
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                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. Feb-02)


               -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
               -Presidential race
                   -George S. McGovern
                   -Hubert H. Humphrey
                   -George C. Wallace
               -Kissinger’s view
               -Chou En-lai
               -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
               -Transmission
                   -Haldeman
               -The President’s changes against McGovern

The President’s meeting with Echeverria
     -The President’s re-election
     -The President’s prestige in world

Vietnam
     -Mining of harbors
          -The President’s May 8, 1972 speech
          -Effect
          -Lyndon B. Johnson
          -Press coverage

SALT
   -Congressional action
         -Timing for ratification
              -Kissinger’s view
   -William P. Rogers’s statement
         -Gerard C. Smith’s departure
   -Future negotiations by Kissinger
         -Further agreements
              -Brezhnev
   -The President’s role in negotiations
         -Structure of treaty
         -Kissinger’s role
              -Verification Panel
              -National Security Council [NSC]
         -John Foster Dulles
         -Smith
              -Rogers
         -Chou En-lai
         -Brezhnev
         -Rank of negotiators
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                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. Feb-02)


               -Kissinger’s role
          -Andrei A. Gromyko
               -Comparison with Kissinger
          -Rank of Secretary of State
     -Rogers
          -Relations with press
               -Dulles
               -Kissinger
               -Problems

Kissinger's briefing of Congressmen
     -Timing
           -Clark MacGregor
     -Fulbright
           -Kissinger’s statement
     -National television appearance
           -Timing
           -Newsmen
                 -Marvin L. Kalb
                      -Comparison with Howard K. Smith

The President's interview with Dan Rather

Kissinger's future briefings on SALT
     -Foreign relations committees

Congressional briefing on SALT
    -Kissinger
    -Rogers, Laird, Smith
    -Testimony
    -Question on secret agreements
          -Response
    -Three submarines
          -Construction
          -Missile systems
          -US position
          -Possible conversion
    -Defense program
          -McGovern’s program
               -The President’s view

Kissinger's schedule
     -PRC
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                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. Feb-02)


          -Hawaii
               -Departure time
          -Shanghai
          -Guam
               -Stopover
               -Jet lag
               -Peking

Vietnam
     -US air action
           -PRC
     -Gen. John D. Lavelle
           -Possible role for the President
           -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
           -The President’s orders to Laird
                 -Bombing
           -Laird’s orders
           -The President’s view
           -Retirement
           -Laird’s role at Defense Department
                 -Handling of case
                 -The President’s critics
                     -Compared with My Lai
                 -Authority to bomb North Vietnam
                     -Missile sites
                     -Demilitarized zone [DMZ]

The President’s meeting with Echeverria
     -Business investment in Latin America
           -The President’s view
     -Stability
     -Chile
           -Salvador Allende Gossens
           -Investment capital flight
     -Latin American attitudes
     -Mexican Foreign Minister [Emilio Rabasa Mishkin]
           -Meetings with Kissinger
           -Dobrynin
           -Future meeting with Kissinger
     -Salinity of Colorado River
           -The President’s comments

Kissinger’s schedule
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                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. Feb-02)


           -Visit to Acapulco


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      Kissinger's briefing on SALT
           -Question on the President's role in negotiations
                 -Smith

Kissinger left at 1:26 pm.